Just ordered a S&W M&P in .45acp (of course) with night sights and three 10 round mags. The bbl is 4.5 inch for sight radius & some decent accuracy; the 4.5" should give my primo carry ammo a good wallop. The polymer (Zytel) keeps the weight down to 29.5 ounces. A bit heavy for carry, but I have others for that. Couldn't beat the deal ($400.) from a friend who only put a few rounds through it. I tried to NOT make the deal, but I'm just so weak. I swore I'd NEVER get a S&W again, after they made their 'Capacity & AWB' deal with Clinton in 1993, but they don't make a penny on a used gun sale. Already looking at a Springfield XD .45acp with a 5.2 inch bbl with two 12 round mags... what a fine walloper that would be. I'll be back with a range report (or two) when I get out there.