My first concealed carry.

Discussion in 'Concealed Carry' started by firedawg60, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. JustBen

    JustBen Well-Known Member

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    What holster?

    I think I need to get myself a part time job in a gun store.
     
  2. GOANRA

    GOANRA Well-Known Member

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    Just Ben, that's Funny! I rarely use a holster anymore.

    The IWBs just never worked for me. The Fobus type, that slip over my belt & inside my jeans work best for me.



    The last one I got has a 360* cant adjustment with the red rubber that snugs my leg & doesn't weigh my pants down and all my Fobus types cause the sidearm to snug in real tight.

    They gotta have that 'red' rubber on them though.

    They are easy to just slip on & off, without 'threading' one on a belt.

    ebay is a great place to find holsters at a decent price.
     

  3. JustBen

    JustBen Well-Known Member

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    Goanra:

    Excellent advice. I am getting tired of belt looping all the time, but I do want to keep it secure when in a public rest room etc... Don't want to have to pick it up off the floor.

    I will try one of these.

    Thanks

    Ben
     
  4. lrgcal4fun

    lrgcal4fun Well-Known Member

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    Hay Ben,

    You bring up an important point for all of us to keep in mind. Keeping your gun conceals wile using a public rest room. Those stalls are not all that privet. It is good the have thought this through before one experiences that urgent need.....
     
  5. ulgydog56

    ulgydog56 Well-Known Member

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    i feel that if your not carring in your pocket or istwb the holster should have a thumb or hammer break strape ive droped a gun before ...not a good feeling or safe...for c&c...
     
  6. john118242

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    hey im going to start conceal carrying soon sent in for my license and waiting to get aprroved and i am looking for a good holster for a smith and wesson sigma 40 cal . i want a shoulder one cause im in a wheel chair and belt ones dont go very well its to tight on the hip
     
  7. lrgcal4fun

    lrgcal4fun Well-Known Member

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  8. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    John, I have asked one of our esteemed members that shares your mode of transportation to contact you and discuss the various methods of wheeled concealment. I have no doubt that you will be provided some excellent recommendations. Good shootin'!



    Tig
     
  9. GOANRA

    GOANRA Well-Known Member

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    John, I have a friend who uses a wheelchair [can't leave it].

    He attached an IWB holster to his wheelchair with a sewing awl. He said it took about 30 minutes to get it perfect. He didn't see any advantage in strapping it to himself. His is a 1911 type .45

    Mounted on the outside panel of strong hand.

    It has been there since 1970, when he was shot in the head 6 times by another friend of ours with a .22 revolver. He didn't have the $20 he owed the other friend.

    He is confined to his chair and has a colostomy bag, but is otherwise right-as-rain.
     
  10. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    That's an awfully sad story. How terrible for your friend that took all the rounds. Can I be so bold as to ask what happened to the shooter? Over $20 bucks? My heart goes out to your injured friend. Sounds like he's got a good outlook on things in general. Getting to that level must be the real challenge...



    My friend mentioned that he uses an Uncle Mikes pocket holster and a shoulder rig when the weather gets cold. He also uses a North Face Day Pack when required. I think that good old ingenuity will provide you with the best option.
     
  11. GOANRA

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    The friend Bill, was a tall, red-haired fellow who went over to Rich's house [lived with his parents & just grad HS].

    Rich didn't have the $20. so Bill just pulled a .22 rev & shot him 6 times in the head... right there on the porch.

    Rich was always a 'happy-go-lucky' kid in Detroit. He just sort of stayed that way.

    Bill was 18 and off to jail that same day. Trial & then prison for Attempted Murder.



    In the '60s I had 2 other friends [15 yrs old] who got into a fight [dumb argument], one killed the other by stabbing him in the neck. Stabbing made more sense back then and was even routine in our neighborhood. Dying sure wasn't.

    The kid who did the stabbing was sent to a Juvy home.

    I moved out & went to work at 15 and never saw that kid again.

    Stayed friends with Rich, still a joker with a lovely wife, but I moved to KS 11 years ago and lost touch.



    25 years after being shot, he never once answered the door without one hand on his .45acp.
     
  12. john118242

    john118242 Active Member

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    hey thank u guys for the advice . i got a couple more questions and they might be dumb for the experienced shootings and all but im new and learning . is it normal for a gun not to have a thumb/manual safety? by that i mean the button on the handle safety and the guns that dont have that safety is it easy for the gun to go off in a holster? common sense says no but just asking anyway ? i like the shoulder holster but found that concealing is hard so might want a alternative . with a inside the pants holster sitting down it would seem uncomfortable? can u draw sitting down with one? and again im new but learning and being responsible i am going to take a class for basics and all that in a month so maybe some questions will be answered there also .





    tig: i am still waiting for your freind to contact me . if its easier he can email me directly at [email protected]
     
  13. GOANRA

    GOANRA Well-Known Member

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    Glocks and some others don't have manual safeties and require a holster that covers the trigger. These types are better suited for experienced shooters, but with the proper holsters & handling, can be safe.



    Owning a mixture of sidearms with manual & no manual safeties can be a disaster.

    Pick the type you like and stick with it and 'practice' a lot to develop muscle memory.



    I never worried much about drawing while sitting when not in uniform.

    There are no DUMB questions !!! We ALL had to learn at one point.

    I'm retired & still learning all the time.
     
  14. lrgcal4fun

    lrgcal4fun Well-Known Member

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    Hay John, Its good that you are thinking things through and asking questions. As Goanra said, there are on stupid questions.



    A lot of the "drawing from wile sitting" concerns depend on where you place the holster on/in your wast band. If your put the rig on your strong side hip, or just behind it, you'll have to jostle in your seat to get to it but it's very doable. If you place the rig at the cross-draw position you can get to it easily. But, a lot of guys are nervous about having the muzzle so close to their "privets."



    Position also affects your choice of cover garment. If you carry on your hip, or just behind it, you can cover with a jack that is open in the front. If you go "appendix" or cross-draw you need to cover with some kind of pull-over or your shirt.



    Its all about give and take and personal preference. Keep thinking it through for your self and try different options wile you are hanging around your home. It'll help you find out what's really workable for you.



    Also, when your experimenting at home, be sure the gun is unloaded. Its easy to make a bad mistake when your trying different carry positions and draws. I dropped my carry gun once wile practicing with a new holster. Since it was empty, it just bounced down to the carpet and left me with with a learning experience. Keep it safe.....
     
  15. ulgydog56

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    john these guys are wright,if I were starting out I would stay away from double action only pistols with no safty untill you have alot of experince under your belt .when carring a weapon it is far better to stay on the safe side and if you carry with 1 in the pipe its nice to have a decocker. some guns won,t shoot with 1 in the pipe if the mag is removed make sure you know. also you might want to look at a wheel gun they are as simple as it gets and remember dry practice,practice,practice...I,ve screwed up badly thank good it was dry fire......goodluck
     
  16. Torgo

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    @ John, sorry to hear bout your condition, but am glad your still willing to carry.

    @ Goanra, I am sorry to hear about your friend, had a friend like that as well, but he didnt make it,...

    My question revolves around concealing on the thigh. I keep hearing this, and like John am new to the conceal / carry. With the recent laws out here in AZ(take your pick of em) I am looking to conceal, and after I started another thread found this one, I am no longer looking small of my back, but ankle or boot, but I keep hearing thigh. How does one conceal on his thigh would be my question. I understand hip, but the thigh is completely baffeling me. Please forgive my ignorence on the subject, new to me as well.
     
  17. GOANRA

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    The TV is always a good target for draw practice or trigger-pull practice. When I was a new guy, we were told to put a dime on top of our S&W 586 revolvers & practice trigger-pull without moving the dime. Very effective.



    One of my coworkers was practicing his draw during 'optional semi-auto transition' on his 'beautiful' TV... yup, put a 9mm hole in the tube.

    He got suspended for 3 days, but that wasn't the 'painful' part after we ALL heard about it. LOLOL



    It gets worse, his name was McGraw!! LOL

    During pre-shift, even the SGT called him "Quick-Draw". LOL
     
  18. Torgo

    Torgo Well-Known Member

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    LOL alright, now that is amusing.
     
  19. john118242

    john118242 Active Member

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    :) thank you guys . i love the responses . in every forum or discussion thing i have been on online has been rude and unwelcoming people. you guys are great . i definitely understand the give and take on clothing . i experimented with a fake 2 dollar gun and a real holster and most of my clothes didint cover it ya it was a fake unrealistic gun but similar and so when i start carrying in august my 18th birthday i probably be clothes shopping as well :) (i found the loophole if a gun is gifted to me it is legal for me to carry at 18 in new hampshire ) i have been reading and studying laws for months now just to figure it out . i love the inside the waste band holsters for conceal and here in new hampshire open carry is legal so i might give it a try also but my doubts with it also . just beginning i might carry a unloaded gun with a loaded mag for my first few times just to be cautious ya i know kind of pointless a unloaded gun but i want to get the carrying part down first . one thing i have noticed is all the great so called reliable guns are the experienced no manual safety guns like glock and smith and wesson so i think i will stick with the smith and wesson and learn to deal with no safety but may change in 2 months(maybe a revolver?) i'd rather have a reliable gun rather then a unreliable safety gun which i could be completely wrong on this but thats what i have come up with .

    i love your help and if i am missing anything please let me know . i am also on a budget so i figured the s&w40ve was great considering price and brand . a glock is out of the question even tho i do like the brand and the rep . sorry for the off top stuff just had to get it out . i need to learn not to hesitate . from my knowledge a second hesitate could get you killed but also second guessing can help not get u in a bad situation like shooting wrong person . i'm doing modifications to my wheel chair to widen the width so i can carry on my hip better because right now it is snug . i made a joke with a few freinds and said i would put a gun rack on the back and put a shot gun on it while rolling around town like in a pick up truck some people do lol

    for me i dont have a dad ha todays fathers day woohoo

    he died 2 years ago in prison for murder. he was in jail all my life so i dont have that father figure showing me about guns and the manly stuff i have had to learn everything first hand in a way is good .

    goanra: when did u first experience guns and handling them?

    uglydog: by wheel gun do u mean revolver?



    again sorry for the off topic and long comment
     
  20. GOANRA

    GOANRA Well-Known Member

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    goanra: when did u first experience guns and handling them?



    I started shooting a .22 single shot rifle when I was 6, granpa set me out at the big, 5 acre veggie garden on Sundays to shoot crows & such... all day.

    Got a handgun when I was 22 and took up range shooting.



    Yup. A wheelgun is a revolver.

    Some folks carry a semi-auto with an empty chamber all the time, so just do what you're comfortable with.