Update from earlier post. CandS weapon systems still doesn't have a kydek PF9 holster yet, though I beleive the delay is in actually getting a PF9. My Size 1 uncle mike holster that I thought I ordered never came in, but also I never got charged sot that was a wash. In the end I bought a Uncle Mikes Size 36 Open Style, Inside the pant holster from a local sports store. (sports Authority, AKA Garts Sports). Product number 8936-1, Right Hand. It works great. I tested it out hiking up and down a local mountain. also with light jogging , and jeans and belt carry. Works great. The PF 9 has officially replaced my P32 as a primary summer carry. While hiking the shorts were draw string and tie only and the gun rides low enough in the holster to be firmly held in place, and tight enough tot he body to be easily concealed with a t-shirt only. So my summer carry needs have been met. For 10 bucks instead of 50 too boot. Note: the holster packaging identified it as being for 2 inch or small 5 shot revolvers too include the Ruger SP-101, and S&W J frames. The holster formed around the PF 9 just fine though. Also have about another 100 rounds through it. Veryhappy with this purchase. On to rating. I had held off rating it until I had more experience. While fit and finish are a bit rough I will not ding it for this. Your not paying for fit and finish. It has however had no issue other than with 147 grain Golden saber HP. So I will go with a 4 out of 5. Would be nice if feeding would handle heavy HP's right out of the box. I am sure the well known Kel tec fluff and buff would resolve this though.