Kel-Tec P-3AT Reviews

Discussion in 'Pistols' started by eddbrowne, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. rollingradios

    rollingradios New Member

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    I bought this 380 about 8 mos ago. Ever since new I had failure to feed about 1 in 15rds. I'm guessing the feed ramp needs polishing? I did not know information about not shooting mag-safe ammo through this gun until it was too late. After the third round the bottom grip extender exploded from the magazine along with a severe jam. I thought it may just have been the grip extender was cheap. I then put the factory mag in, got 2 more rounds off and severe jam that I had to break down the gun to unjam. Now you can't even get the mag into the well fully.

    I recommend polishing the feed ramp and not to shoot higher velocity rounds.
     

  2. goldfalcon6

    goldfalcon6 Member

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    Bought the pistol new in April. Inspected and lubed it. Fired 50 rounds of 90 grain FMJ last weekend. Five failure to feed, four failure to eject, one failure to fire. Wasn't a "limp wrist"--I've fired many different autos frequently over 39 years, in the Army and after retirement. Have had a few models with malfunctions during break-in, but never, ever encountered anything remotely close to this. Guess I'll try a different load/brand before final judgment.
     
  3. judgeparker

    judgeparker Well-Known Member

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    Hi goldfalcon6

    If you will go back and read my previous posts you will know how to fix your your pistol.I have two of them one is in my pocket right now and I know it will fire first time every time no matter what I put through it. Good luck.
     
  4. udon

    udon New Member

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    Me and the wife shot 50 rounds yesterday with no problems at all. My wife enjoyed shooting our 6" 357, but the P3AT goes better in the pocket for ccw. Good luck in finding handgun ammo............
     
  5. lovemuddin99

    lovemuddin99 New Member

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    Just found a great deal on this small masterpiece 269 best price in virginia. Would recommend field striping and wipe down the factory grease and putting on some good gun lube so you dont have an jamming issues. Have not had a issue with this gun yet put through 2 boxes. It gets some taking use to shooting with the small sights, but pretty accurate for such a small gun. The recoil isnt as bad as I've read on some of the reviews. Its a great gun for the price, pretty minimal lacking slide lock and safety but owning a glock its not a problem. Awesome gun for CC, can have it in my front pocket and no one has a clue I'm packing heat. The only problem right now is finding ammo to put it in.
     
  6. gun-nut21

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    I bought this gun new and after about 75 rds I started to have some serious failure to extract issues. So then I take it down to my gunsmith who tweaks the extractor and tightens the cheap hex nut that holds it in and still no improvement! Finally I get online and find out how to do the Tec Werks Fluff n' Buff because by now Im assuming that this must be a deeper issue than just the extractor....... Take it to the range and experience a 40% FTE rate so I call Kel-Tec and they wont fix it unless I give them more money because I voided my warranty bhy doing the Fluff n' Buff!!!!! GRRRRRRR, this thing is a piece of crap....... spend the extra 80 bucks and get yourself a Ruger LCP.
     
  7. ar1521

    ar1521 New Member

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    does this gun have a safety
     
  8. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    The only safety is the transfer bar on these little guns. It protects the gun from firing if it's dropped with a round in the chamber. Other than that the trigger pull is set high to provide for some additional protection from inadvertant trigger pulls.
     
  9. gun-nut21

    gun-nut21 Member

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    I own a decently reliable heavily worn P11 so I decided to give the little P3AT a go.... 50 rounds later and every other round is a failure to extract. So I find out about this fluff and buff and how its supposed to make the little gun so much more reliable blah blah blah, and 4 hours later I am finished. So I take it to the range for another 50 rds..... no improvement. I then take it to a gunsmith who modifies the extractor and give it another go.... It was all a complete waste of time, don't buy this gun! For 50 bucks less you can get a NAA Mini-Mag that will go bang every time with the right ammo...
     
  10. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hear about the lack of reliability with your pistol. I've heard other stories about failures in this little gun. I carry a Seecamp and have never had a single problem. I recommend it highly!
     
  11. ZUMA

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    Love the Freedom P3AT. I have put 500 rounds through it. I wanted to really get to know this gun because I am carrying it. I have the Crimson Laser, makes a big difference. Quick aquisition. It took a little practice to get my accuracy. it is light and you have to shoot it to get to know it. I practice with one hand and two for emergency situations. Nice and light to carry!! I had no issues except it can be picky with ammo. I bought some cheap Hungarian rounds that it could not punch. But all branded ammo is fine. Unfortunately 380 is hard to find. When I can I by as much as I can. Great little gun. I also added Hogue slip on rubber for better grip because it is small.
     
  12. diamondoug

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    I noticed some people having trouble w/their p3at. Don't use white box ammo from Walmart for sure and try out some other ammo brands before you start gunsmithing.



    Also, just send in your pistol if it needs work and do not tell them that you "fluffed and buffed" it. I contacted Keltec by email and was given instructions for sending it too them. (Mine was heavily worked over too.)



    I purchased a used pistol with some issues and mailed it too them in the original box and the gun came back with a new slide.



    It seemed to shoot unreliably until I changed ammo. I like mine now. Mine likes hollow points and shoots better for me with a finger extension.
     
  13. cometkid

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    gun-nut21, I am also sorry to hear about your P3AT problems. First; I agree with the other members that ammo selection can make a big difference. As a NRA handgun instructor I see all types of handguns. Most are sensitive to ammo selection and the grip used. It is in everyone's best interest to test all the readily available ammo for your caliber. Accuracy and reliability can be greatly impacted by ammo selection. My P3AT just loves the Remington UMC ball and personal protection ammo. I own, regularly carry, and frequently shoot my P3AT without problems. It has a laser mounted to it and I would not go without a laser again. This gun is capable of shooting small groups well beyond distances commonly accepted as "self defense" range. Last weekend I provided handgun instruction to a women with minimal handgun experience. She shot about 30 rounds from my P3AT at an 8" circular target from 15 to 25 feet and never missed a circle target about 8" in diameter and with no reliability issues. Often her 3 to 4 shot groups were in the 3" to 4" range.

    Second; If ammo selection does not improve the temperament of your P3AT, I strongly suggest sending it back for repair. Kel-Tec's service is second to none as far as I am concerned. Give Kel-Tec a chance and keep an open mind.
     
  14. GOANRA

    GOANRA Well-Known Member

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    I used mine as an 'on-duty backup' and it was great. Now I'm retired and have 2. Both work 100% for the past 150 rounds. Good point about using adequate ammo. The BTHP is my choice [ballistic tip hollow point]. Too perfect with the pocket clip.

    I've run some +Ps thru both, but not a good idea. My wife has tiny/weak little hands, but is good for 30 ft.
     
  15. tackstrp

    tackstrp New Member

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    have put few hundred reloads thru my p3at freedon editon with the crimson trace. At first i was very disappointed because i did not understand the long trigger reset and consequently I got a lot of light strikes. My reloads seem to work as good as commerial ammo. only purchased one box, of Aquilla, just to compare with my reloads.



    I hope that i can get used to the trigger reset. Also have a Seecamp on cosignment at gun store. Hope sells soon. Will replace the Seecamp pistol with a Sig 238. Really like that lazer. what a difference. If i can get confortable that the Kel tec will go bang on command i will skip buying the Sig 238 and get another Glock.



    As a final note, I think that Kel Tec with newer guns have the fieeding issue corrected.
     
  16. chuckroast

    chuckroast Member

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    I love this gun. I still carry it over the LCP. This thing is just a work horse. I clean mine in the dishwasher! Really. And I now have over 1000 rds thru it.



    Great gun reviews @: www.pocket-defense.com
     
  17. ripman

    ripman New Member

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    Ok, so back from the range today. I went 2 days ago, as well. Good thing is, 50 rounds, not one failure to eject. Used Magtech! Bad thing was, my big hands (actually thumb), kept sliding down and ejecting the clip.

    Today I was able to grip the gun better. No clip ejecting. But I did have two failure to ejects. My guess is, I should clean this gun, after every time I shoot it! The gun fires well and I like the small size for carry. On those hot days, with little clothing, this is my gun of choice!



    Rip
     
  18. Short review: don't buy it. The price is alright but that is about it.

    Long Review:I own one of these, and anyone who askes I suggest buying a better weapon. I can not say it was a good choice for a CCW. I bought this right after I got my CCW and thought it would make a nice carry weapon. Silly me bought one without firing one. I have not made that mistake since then. This is a bad choice for a primary CCW weapon, and still a bad choice as a backup weapon. I have frequent jams (regardless if it has just been cleaned or not) I have even polished the feed ramp, still jams. I have about 250 - 300 rounds through it, each time I use it I expect at least one jam. I have used different ammo with this and FMJ Winchesters seem to feed the best. Since I have switched to those I normally only get one jam every three clips. At first I thought it was an issue with the clips so I went and bought 2 new ones and marked the original.. Well the jams occured regardless of what clip I was using. I tried only loading 5 rounds still jammed. I am going to be keeping this one at home in the drawer, as a last resort I know I can effectively throw it at an intruder. While they worry about what I threw I will be linning up with something more reliable.
     
  19. tackstrp

    tackstrp New Member

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    An update on my Kel tec mis advaenture. I could not get used to the long tirger reset. If not for that it would be a keeper. Is on Consignment. Will buy a Colt Detective special , which is six chots of 38 special. Looked at the Sig P238 and for the price i can buy a Glock 26.27 or 29 cheaper. I like guns that go bang when i put the tirgger and willing to bet my life it will.





    Over all like but just cant get the hang of the trigger reset. To many bad habits.