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Discussion in 'Pistols' started by eddbrowne, Mar 27, 2006.
Good to Excellent concealed pistol. Lower good rating only because it isnt finished as well as many other pistols. My constant companion at present. Ive shot 350 rounds through it, various types, and not had even one jam or misfire. Very impressed. I use a hard carved piece of rubber that fits snugly behind the trigger as a make shift safety and cary in an uncle Mikes pocket holder.
This gun is definately the ultimate in concealment + decent caliber. Mine has jammed a half dozen times out of 150 rounds. Not fun to shoot, but its not supposed to be. I give a 4, but I want something bigger for myself.
I have just bought this gun from my local gun store and already Im not crazy about it, even though I have not fired it yet. When I put the bullets into the clip, they rattle a little, and you have to push the clip in with enough force that I thought I was going to break it. Then when I tried to rack the slide, it took quite a bit of muscle to even pull it back, then when I had gotten it back, I had to push the slide forward to chamber the bullet. Maybe the slide is just tough because it is brand new, we will soon find out.
The size of this pistol is great for concealment, but I do not like the fact that it has no slide lock.
At first I wasnt thrilled when I had to whack/slap the back of the slide to chamber the first round. I would have also liked a second magazine along with it. I changed my mind when I fired it. First 6 shots rapid fire at 25 feet made a group that could be covered with a coffee cup. I put two boxes (40 rounds) of Winchester 95 grain SXT through it without a single problem.
I still have to slap the slide home when chambering the first round. This doesnt pose a problem when I actually fire the gun, so I dont mind. It was clear & sunny when I went to the range, so the sights were not too bad. I imagine theyll be near useless in low light.
Ive heard of stove-pipes, rough triggers, and failures to feed. Mine had none of these problems. I just picked it up last week so I imagine Kel-Tec has worked the bugs out. As a decent back-up gun for $265, so far Im very happy with it.
Im not providing a rating yet because I have not been to the range with mine. I just picked it up a couple of weeks ago. I went to the KTOG site and followed the instruction for the fluff-n-buff as a reliability precaution. This little gun is certainly easy to conceal. I can fit it in the coin pocet of my jean so that the the grip is accessable. It fits in this little pocket snuggly to the point where the trigger guard meets with the grip. That type of concealability is nice to have.
This is a no-frills close quarter combat backup or last ditch bail you out of trouble weapon. Extremely concealable. So far no failures or jamming problems using energetic ammo. Its not accurate from distances, however, if in a real situation, you are going to be in close quarter combat with this weapon. The only negative thing is that it seems so cheaply made, not sure how long it will last. I may pick up another one though while there still cheap.
I just bought my Kel Tec P-3AT after much consideration. I was very concerned with the reliability and the recoil hurting my hand. I was delightfully surprised, however, to find that with the 100 rounds I put through it there wasnt one hiccup. The little gun shot flawlessly! Also the recoil was very managable especially for a .380. I am very impressed with this little gun, and I suspect it with be with me as much as my Glock 19.
I finally had the opportunity to get this little gun to the range. I was surprised that I experienced no feed or ejection problems. I did not shoot the gun well (with any accuracy) at 7 yards I did hit the target. As the LEO below stated this is a last ditch bail you out of trouble weapon. I believe it will work for what it is designed for.
I have had my P3AT more than a year. I carry in my front pocket with a DeSantis and/or Mikes#! depending on the situation. I have about 500 rds through it and except for startup problems it is 100% reliable. Great gun for the money......see KTOG.org for owner opinions...
I bought the P-3AT after giving it very careful consideration. The purchase price of $249 made the decision easier.
I shot about 40 rounds right after purchasing it and it mis-fired once for every full magazine. The dealer told me to shoot some more rounds through it and if I still had a problem, send it back to Kel-Tec, that they are very good about making things right.
I brought it home, cleaned it and oiled the slide then took it back to the firing range and shot about 70 rounds through it without a mis-fire but with one jam.
I like this little gun. The trigger pull on it is smooth and I can shoot accurately with it. Most importantly, I can put it in my front pocket and no one would know its there. Heck, I almost forgot it was there once.
I purchased this little gun 6 months ago, & I am very pleased. For the money (250) it is well worth it. Very accurate at close range, 7 or 8 yards give you fist size groups. I carry it everywhere, legally, & nobody ever sees it.
Funny what people will expect from a pistol that is as small as a pack of cigarettes! It is the greatest gun ever invented for its intended purpose. If you put the pocket clip on it, it looks just like a folding knif in your pocket. After I took it to the range the first time, I soon found out it is not a range plinker gun, it is not intended to be. I carry mine like my American Express Card and load it with 94 grain Hydro-shocks. I have yet to have a malfunction. Make sure you get the 2nd Generation because the problems you read about are from the 1st. By the way, does the Lifetime Guarantee mean anything to you? Kel-tech will fix it forever if you have problems. Accept it for what it is, a personal protevtion device.
I own a sub-2000 and love it, a P-32 and love it, but had a frustrating beginning with the P-3AT. Magazines would pop out upon firing each shot. Thought I might be hitting the magazine release so I had a buddy shoot it and same thing happened. I sent it to the facotry with detailed letter, and it came back with the same problem, so I sent it back a 2d time and talked to Customer Service and the gunsmith. They got it right, it appears, the 2d time around. I do like the customer service at Kel-tec. I also have had problems with a Kahr PM9 ( going back to factory twice for an unfixed problem, and Kel-Tec service is 2-3 times faster (1 WEEK VS. 1 MONTH for Kahr). I really like these mouse guns, and I carry them nearly full-time but find the quality control at Kel-Tec is lacking. I have had such serious malfunctions on my 1 month old P-11 I returned it to the dealer. Just couldnt trust it. I just wish the sights were a bit better on the P-32 and the P-3AT for my older eyes.
this gun does what it is ment to do it is easy to conceal is very potent in its caliber .308and when needed it is accurate
only thing i dont like is you realy should not carry a round in the chamber till you are ready to fire decause it is doubel action only
I have a second gen P3AT. I have about 300 rounds thru it with 2 failures to extract - not bad for such a small gun.
Problem was about round 300ish the grip cracked at the rear frame pin - its currently back at KelTec for warranty repair. Their customer service this far has been top notch. They sent the UPS lady after the gun on their dime.
I PICKED UP A 2G P3AT FOR $239 AT A GUN SHOW IN MIAMI ALONG WITH AN ANDERSON POCKET HOLSTER. I FIND THIS COMBINATION VERY HARD TO BEAT IN TERMS OF COMFORT AND CONCEALABILITY EVEN WHILE WEARING DRESS PANTS. IVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH FTF/FTE WITH HARDBALL, CORBONS, REMMINGTON HP AND HP RELOADS. ACCURACY HAS BEEN MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE FOR UP CLOSE AND DIRTY WORK. RECOIL IS SUPRISINGLY MILD WHEN COMPARING IT TO MY BUDDIES 380 SEECAMP. THOUGH THE SEECAMP IS APPRECIABLY HEAVIER IN WEIGHT ITS BLOWBACK DESIGN GENERATES HEAVIER RECOIL THAN THE BREACH LOCKING P3AT. I OWN SEVERAL OTHER POCKET GUNS ie; MUSTANG POCKET LITE, BERETTA BOBCAT AND TOMCAT AND A J FRAME 340 SC 357, I CARRY THAT LIL KELTEC MOST OF THE TIME. THE ONLY CURRENT PRODUCTION GUNS THAT COME CLOSE TO IT ARE THE ROHRBAUGH 9MM AND THE KELTEC PF9. THE ROHRBAUGH IS PRICEY AND GRIP SEEMS PRONE TO PINCHING THE WEB OF YOUR HAND LIKE THE PPK AND THE PF9 IS ONLY SLOWLY BEING RELEASED AND APPEARS TO BE HAVING GROWING PAINS. WHEN YOU HAVE A P3AT THAT IS CARRY RELIABLE ITS DEMENSIONS EXTREMELY LIGHT WEIGHT AND MANAGEABLE RECOIL AND DECENT STOPPING POWER WITH HIGH END HP AMMO MAKE IT A POCKET GUN SECOND TO NONE. IT IS THE IDEAL GUN TO CARRY WHEN YOU CANT CARRY A GUN.
I bought this gun for $249 brand new and I love it! I basically bought it so I can conceal it when I wear a suit just in case I have to take off my jacket or if I am wearing light clothing. I bought the kel tec extension and It helps a bit with the grip since the gun is so small it might feel like it will fly off your hand. I shoot this at 7 yards I get a very decent grouping for a gun this small. If that was somebodys head all the shots would hit it. The best 250 bucks I have ever spent on a gun. Also, I messed up the bluing on two little parts of it, because I was experimenting with something. I asked Kel-Tec how much the parts would cost and they said they woudl send them to me for free! A week later I got them. Excellent gun, excellent customer service and it has lifetime warranty! You cannot beat this deal. I carry this gun the most even though I have 3 other guns (Steyr M40-a1, Mahurhin PPK/s and Taurus 425) because its really comfortable to carry. Since it is DAO, I carry it loaded all the time. Awesome gun.