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Discussion in 'Pistols' started by eteasley, Mar 24, 2006.
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looking at buying first handgun. anyone have advice on wether i should go with a springfield xd or a glock 19 or 23. thanks
I would definitely go with the Glock...and probably the 19. I think the quality levels are about the same, as well as accuracy. however, the glock does it in a smaller package, and a lighter weight.
hey i am looking at the flcok 19 as my second hand gun . im getting the smith and wesson 40 cal sigma as my first and ya im ahead of myself looking for another gun but im keeping my mind busy lol . i hear glock every time i mention hand guns to any one its glock glock glock and some times 1911's but what is your view on glocks? good gun for first 9mm? reliable? and what is this whole generations thing? the higher the gen the better the gun or what?
The G19 is one of the best 9mm pistols ever made. It does everything well. It's small enough for concealed carry, has accuracy as well as reliability, not to mention high capacity. How do you say classic?
I totally agree. The Glock line of handguns is by far the most reliable semi auto pistol ever made. Glock is currently in it's 4th generation and I haven't had the opportunity to shoot one. I have a 2nd generation Glock 23 and it's as fine a pistol as I've ever owned. Accurate, completely reliable, high capacity and tough as nails. Excellent firearm!!
i talk to alot of different gun guys and another thing i hear is they dont like glock because its all plastic or what ever its made of not metal and some people love glock because it has no metal . does it really make a difference? my thought is a metal one is more durable but i could be wrong
Well John, I thought that old story had run it's course, I guess not. The Glock is made of steel and polymer (not plastic). Polymer is as durable as any of the steel frame pistols and believe it or not, all Glocks are 83% metal!! The polymer frame helps greatly in reducing the overall weight of the gun, adds durability and also eliminates the possibility of corrosion in that area. To answer your question about whether it is as durable as an all steel gun, the answer is a big yes! Here's a good website that might answer some additional questions: http://www.remtek.com/arms/glock/model/9/19/
Polymer and plastic are synonymous. That said, nothing wrong with plastic.
Anyway, I own a glock 19 from the late 80's. It was used a good bit, then stored for a few years until recently. It was fully stripped and cleaned, but was jamming up on the range (slide didn't seem to be fully cycling the rounds). Took it to a gun shop, they worked on it, said it was fine, but same problem persists. It's about 1-2 jams/clip, so definitely a big problem. If anyone has any ideas, they'd definitely be appreciated.
Sometimes the problem with feeding is caused by poor functioning magazines and not the gun itself. You may want to try a new magazine spring or maybe even a brand new magazine. The extra "push" of a new spring might help.
I hope that helps.
thank you for the answer tig
Yes polymers are plastic but they are a step above the low quality plastics used in toys, etc. Here's some info that will give you a better understanding between the two:
A polymer is a large molecule (macromolecule) composed of repeating structural units typically connected by covalent chemical bonds. While polymer in popular usage suggests plastic, the term actually refers to a large class of natural and synthetic materials with a wide variety of properties.
Take a look at this as well: http://www.globalspec.com/learnmore...ts/fiber_reinforced_plastics_frp_smc_prepregs
Thanks for the advice djk. The spring in the magazine still feels really tight, but I'll give a new magazine a try.
tig - I'm a senior chem major I agree there be a difference in connotation between the two, but the differences stop there.
i saw a amzing video on youtube of a guy shooting his glock 19 under water does any one know how accurate it is under water? doesint water ruin the bullets?
you should clean you mags for any gun. single stacks are tighter than doubles, therefore singles get cleaned more often. take out the follower and the spring will follow. soak the cotton mop attachment with appropriate cleaner. scrub inside, wipe clean and lube. wipe the spring and follower, lube, reassemble. helped a lot for me, in my 1911 commander.
only thing i don't like is the center of balance, top heavy
a better 9mm would be, beretta 84 cheetah or px4 storm.
Please read the message I will post in "Gun Chatter" about underwater fire. I read questions related to yours quite often, and it scares Me that someone might hurt themselves, or others.
whats up guys I'm looking into buying my first gun but cant decide im stuck between the gen 4 Glock 19 and the Beretta px4 storm ive shot both i feel in love with the Beretta but then again i hear great things bout Glock's will like to have a little more info on personal thoughts about both any suggestions???
gball, the glock 19 is a very reliable and lightweight weapon that has many pros that I will throw your way. The mags are about 20 bucks a piece if you look in the right places, the weight is amazing at about 22 ounces compared the px4's 28 and the glock 19 is also shorter in lenght by about an inch. The glock 19 has so many accessories and holsters you'd have no problems making your gun anything you'd like. The only con that I see that might make you hesitate might be the lack of safety on this gun but its still worth every penny in reliability and will last you forever if you take care of it. Berettas are good guns too but might be more expensive for you when you decide to purchase mags or accessories, just something to keep in mind.
Every review I've ever seen of the G-19 has been 100%.
I've owned many Glocks and can easily believe it.
Great thing about Glock is it has the fewest moving parts of any semi. Easy takedown & maint.
The PX4 is a fine sidearm and a manual safety is good for a first sidearm.
I'm looking for the lightest most accurate glock out there...money isn't a object for the gun...I went shooting with a buddy of mine awhile back and I shot his glock...I loved the way it felt in the palm of my hand...near weightless and it was extremely accurate...don't know what kind it was because he never said. I'm an avid big game hunter. Had a run in with a grizzly and I didn't have the right side-arm...Ended up with 100 stiches in my arm and I'll be d**ned if I make that mistake twice...any help would be greatly appreicated
on a side note. I have a AR-15 and I was wondering if they sold lighter replacement parts to cut down on some of the weight...if you haven't noticed I like extremely light guns...I find they are alot more fun to play with when they aren't aiming you...but your aiming them