Yes I know that probably most people call the 9 short the .380 auto, .380 ACP, the 9 Kurtz. The reason that I call it that is because It's a classic, nickle finish model with those words right on the top of barrel near the breach it says Cal. 9 short then right below that is says .380 auto. I love this gun. and my M1911A1 is made by RIA, I replaced the smooth wallnut grips to some rubber HOUGE grips, put a dash of HOT pink fingernail polish on the front site to help aim (as you know, the orignal dovetail iron sights on these guns made it a little more difficult to find the target) it, I have about 800 rounds through it and it operates great with all 3 mags. It came with one 8 round black stainless, then I bought a cheaper 7 round original style mag but the best one is the Chip McCormick 10 round single stack!!! it only sticks out of the butt one inch. anyway, good job on letting me know about some of the laws about self defense in WA state. When I go to buy a side arm I look for quality, looks (that might sound cheezy, it's true), reputation, and after research is done. I don't just buy guns for self defense, although all of my weapons can be used in self defense, I liike to shoot. It's a fun Hobby and I love everything about it. One thing I want to bring up is this concerning what you can do and what you need to do to get out of a situation. If the law says you can use deadly force in a situation but you see that you don't need to, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Like driving a car, I have AVOIDED hundreds of car accidents where it would have totally been the other persons fault. It doesn't mean if don't see a chance to avoid the accident to purposely let thim hit me because I know i can sue them and there insurance company. My point is, no one, I don't care who you are or who you think you are, killing another human being will change your life forever! you don't know exactly how it will affect yourself uless it happens but it will. That does NOT mean that I wouldn't use deadly force after all other avenues of diplomacy have been exausted. To sum it up: IF you don't absalutely have too, don't. Avoid any and all possible situations of attach IF you can. I'm not trying to put anyone down I'm just putting it in a different light, so you can see it at a different angle. I love everything about guns, including that I can use it to protect my friends, family, and self. I'm on your side! and No, I am not a writer as was implied by tigwelder56, just a regular joe.