Carry Condition Preference Survey

Discussion in 'Concealed Carry' started by 1ofEA, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. John_Doe

    John_Doe Active Member

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    S&W 340 M&P with a clipdraw belt clip installed on the side of the gun. No holster required. Hangs right on the belt, Very comfortable and easy to conceal.
     
  2. ulgydog56

    ulgydog56 Well-Known Member

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    cover the trigger mannnn, or it may go boom,boom,.............
     

  3. smith6906

    smith6906 Well-Known Member

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    S&W 6904. in Galco Leather pancake. 12+1 hammer down, safety off. .........8LB trigger......its my safety ;-)
     
  4. MightyFoFaad

    MightyFoFaad Well-Known Member

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    Most of my autos are 1911 "type" guns, like the Colt Combat Commander, Browning HiPower, Taurus PT940 etc. For 45 years I've felt most comfortable (safe) keeping one in the chute with the hammer "down." The only exception is my Taurus PT145 which doesn't have an external hammer & so you must keep the safety on. You can guess how many different types of holsters I've gone thru over the years. For the last 10, I've switched to belt slide holsters for all of my autos. They are the most concealable as they add nothing to your silhouette.
     
  5. ulgydog56

    ulgydog56 Well-Known Member

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    everybodys diffarent....for semiautos i like 1 in the pipe and a decocker/safety down.I will carry double action only but mostly 0 in the pipe unless i don,t like the area. thats my comfort zone....revolvers diffrent storie, trigger group sleeved and good to go.....
     
  6. ke7zem

    ke7zem Well-Known Member

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    I allways carry one in the pipe with a full mag. The idea is, a good gun is made to be carried this way and you do not know when you will be attacked. it takes less than a second for someone with knife to get to your body within 10 feet? something like that? My M1911A1 is meant to be carried in condition one, that is one in the pipe, full mag, hammer back, and thumb safety on. you could carry it in condition 0 ( I would't, thats the same thing except the thumb safety is off), but that's a little extreme for me. I have a .40 cal Glock I carry with one in the chamber, that's what a defensive, combat handgun is made for. The best safety in the world is your brain! I also have a beretta model 84 FS "Cheetah", which is a great carry compact weapon because I am left handed and it offers the ambi safe and decock; The double/single action of the trigger is even better for quick draw and instant shooting. you gotta remember, if a situation ever goes down (which I hope it never does) your body, central nervous system, adrenalyn is going to be all over the map, you don't want to have to make alot of decision on, racking the slide, cocking the hammer, unsnapping the holster. That's why practicing the same way everytime you go to the range, carrying the same way everytime and all that is exactly the same so you don't have to think about it in a critical insodent.
     
  7. ulgydog56

    ulgydog56 Well-Known Member

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    what you say is very true, and you would,nt carry that 1911 at 0 condishion....comfort level...if your not comforable and confident bad things happen,and you bet practice,practice,practice...
     
  8. MightyFoFaad

    MightyFoFaad Well-Known Member

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    From ke7zem:



    you gotta remember, if a situation ever goes down (which I hope it never does) your body, central nervous system, adrenalyn is going to be all over the map, you don't want to have to make alot of decision on, racking the slide, cocking the hammer, unsnapping the holster.



    YOU BETCHA !!!
     
  9. JustBen

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    1911's are great weapons, but be sure to have your thumb on top of that safety 100% of the time, every time you touch that gun. I see people shooting these guns with their thumb under the safety. Huge mistake.

    Practice makes permanent not perfect. So like all you guys have said, practice like you are in a fight for your life.

    I carry a Glock 23 with a polished 3.5 lb. trigger in a comp-tac holster ready to go. For a back up I have a S&W 340CT .357 in a Desantis Nemasis pocket holster. Internal hammer double action only and no safety.
     
  10. MightyFoFaad

    MightyFoFaad Well-Known Member

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    @ justben: .357 S&W 340CT??? Not really a good choice. It's too much like a "cell phone." With that short barrel, there's too much flash & noise ... people get really annoyed when you use it in a movie theater. :)
     
  11. JustBen

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    MFF; I am finally catching on to your humor. Forgive me I am a little slow. Old age is my excuse.

    The other problem with the 340CT is that it will bust off your wrist. I have only shot about 20 rounds through it about a year ago and my wrist is still not right.

    I hope I never get in a situation where I need to use it, but it generally will not jam when trying to light one off in a bad guy while rolling around on the ground. Forget the acurracy, this one is basically a set of brass knuckles that go bang. And what a bang it is.
     
  12. MightyFoFaad

    MightyFoFaad Well-Known Member

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    @ justben:



    I hear ya. Years ago I owned a beautiful 6" Colt Python. It's actually bigger than you might think until you shoot it. I have a big hand, but with short thick fingers (no, I'm not a mongoloid) & I found it very hard to comfortably shoot it in DA. So I sold it to a very close friend who drooled over the gun.



    Tell you the truth, IMHO the .357 is a single purpose round. The .357 mag was actually developed for highway cops, so they could shoot thru car doors ... their .38's weren't getting the job done. And, if you notice, altho many dept's were using them 50 years ago, I don't think any cops are authorized to use them today.



    The problem was, they shot thru cars doors okay, but, they shot thru everything else as well. Walls, ceilings & people. I guess after a few law suits, all the municipalities said ixnay on the .357's.



    Now the other side of the coin is .357's in snub nosed guns. I've seen ballistic tables that show there isn't a lot more power coming out of a 2" barrel with a .357 vs. a .38+P. The .357 really needs a full six inches to "utilize" that super blast. Out of a 2" barrel, most of that explosion is just lighting up the air.



    Think not? Go out at night some time & fire one of those .357's out of your snubby. When you see how much flash is coming out between the cylinder & the forcing cone, and out of the muzzle ... you'll probably drop the gun. LOL



    So that's the way I see it. Outside of it's original intent, I really don't see a purpose for a .357 mag. It's too powerful for a close people shooter, & not powerful enough for hunting; the .44 mag has that covered. Just saying.
     
  13. ke7zem

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    have to admit, for a serious combat sidearm, easy and reliable with not much to think about, I think of the Glock. It's the revolver of semi-autos'! Last stat I heard is around 65% of Law Enforcement Agencies carry one form of Glock or another. The best set up I think I've had for carry is the Glock mod 22 with the open top Desantis Holster. They are not the best looking, or nostalgic, they are built for simple, reliable, combat situations with large capacity mags, and a light/lazer rail. All you have to do is draw and pull the trigger! (oh, try to aim first)! I like well built, classic firearms as well, like the 1911 and the Beretta. Don't get me wrong, when you know these guns in and out they are just as good or better than the Glock, but since I enjoy the sport of shooting and quality machine's, and so far thank God I have never had to use a gun against someone else, I get the ones for looks, style, craftsmanship, and fun to shoot!
     
  14. Rerun201

    Rerun201 Well-Known Member

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    Primary - Beretta PX4 full size, decocked and on safe, 1 in the pipe, full magazine, in a Garrett Industries Silent Thunder IWB holster, or Bianchi Shadow pancake holster



    Secondary - Glock 36, 1 in the pipe, full mag, in a Tucker Texas Heritage IWB rig, Bianchi Shadow Pancake, or Bianchi Ranger Triad ankle holster on rare occasions.



    Always carry at least 1 extra mag with my semi-autos. Two with the Glock.



    Special need - Charter Arms Undercover in .38 special, fully loaded, in my pocket, Fobus standard belt holster or Fubus ankle holster, with 2 additional reloads in speed strips.



    If I buy a gun with a safety, I use it.
     
  15. Gloc9mm

    Gloc9mm Well-Known Member

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    "" I think of the Glock. It's the revolver of semi-autos'!""



    I have to agree with that statement. I have owned a G-19 for many Yrs. now and Carry it daily. I've put many thousands of Rounds thru it W/O even 1 FTE or FTL. I have even purposely tried to limp wrist it, not clean it and do everything else within reason to try to make it fail and it never has. They will fire any type of junk Ammo you can buy to practice with and I am totally sold on their reliability. The only problem is I have been lulled into feeling it will never fail, and it's been Yrs. since I have even practiced clearing it just in case! I know if I was a Cop I would want only a Glock. It's too bad that in this Day and Age there are not more Weapons that are as reliable.
     
  16. JustBen

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    Practicing clearing jams is important. You can put empty brass in your magazine forwards and backwards randomly and simulate a jam. I put a live round in backwards by accident one time at a range. That was a tough one to clear and clear fast. Double feeds are also really tough to clear fast. My Glock23 jams every now and then, especially when under stressful situations. I know they are good guns, but you cannot count on yourself not causing the jam. Again, practice is important.
     
  17. ulgydog56

    ulgydog56 Well-Known Member

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    ya or try practice with snap caps..........
     
  18. ke7zem

    ke7zem Well-Known Member

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    all in all it comes down to preference and efficiancy. Some like the full 5 inch M1911 .45 cal (like I do), some like the Glock 19, which is a compact version of the Glock 17, in fact, it's barrel is only .5" shorter than the 17 chambered in 9mm. Hi cap mags and hot self defense loads make this a good choice. I have the Glock 22 gen 3 chambered in 40 S&W which is a GREAT intermediate round from the 9mm to the .45 and is what most Government agencies and police agencies shoot, there is a good reason for that. All in all I encourage people to look at some actual cases of recorded episodes of self defence, what kind of gun and rounds they had, how many shots they had to fire (if any). A good source that I found is the American Rifleman that comes every month as part of my NRA membership. They have several real stories about people who actually had to defend themselves. The reason I say this, if you don't know all the laws pertaining to self defense with a gun in your state, you could be the one behind bars!!!. any gun that holds and shoots ammo is a good self defense gun. noted in one case, an eldery women heard someone brake into her house, she picked up a single action revolver chambered in .22LR and she shot at the intruder 3 times, she might have hit him once and he fled the scene only to be caught later on. The idea of self defense is NOT to go Rambo and kill someone because they broke in your house, you use enough force to end the threat and that's it. Otherwise you can be charged yourself! I read about a case that a criminal broke into someones house, or was on there property unwanted and the home owner used a gun against him, the criminal took this man to court and won a civil case. You can find all the details in issues of the American Rifleman. For my home protection I have an M1911A1 .45 with 3 mags full of SJHP Golden Sabre rounds, a Mossberg 500 pump action 12 gauge shotgun with a pistol grip and 18.5" barrel with the tube loaded with six, 2and3/4" 000 buck, a surefire 200 lumen flashlight ready to go. when I go out i have a Beretta Model 84FS chambered in 9 short with 13+1 in a belt holster and another 13 round mag in my pocket. That is more than enough to protect myself, my family, and friends from any would be robber. If he has a gun pointed at your face and wants your car, you give it too him, it doesn't matter if your carrying a Colt Delta Elite in 10mm, if he has the drop on you it's over. If my wife or children were in the car, I would fight to the death to save them, if he wants my car, my wallet, take it, it's too late. If he has a knife, that's a different story, bring a knife to a gun fight and see what happens.. The best self defense and safety is awareness, and its in your own head. think ahead, plan ahead, avoid any suspicious situation, your not supposed to be out there with a chip on your shoulder looking for a fight, if you are that type, your giving the rest of us a bad name.

    sincerely,

    Richard
     
  19. Rerun201

    Rerun201 Well-Known Member

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    Just Ben an Ugly Dog 56-



    I've successfully used unprimed and uncharged cartridges in the past with great success. I have a friend who reloads. I have some .38 specials, 9mm and .45 cal dummies that I randomly load into the cylinder/magazine to practice misfires and clearance drills. Paint the face of the cartridge red and store them separately from your ammo to avoid confusion.