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Discussion in 'Gun Chatter' started by exhaust, Feb 5, 2007.
Git er dun!
9mm minimum. I have a 32 ACP Guardian that I carrry when Im not armed. But 9mm, with defense ammo for dirtbags. 380 ACP gets mentioned in these discussions, but Id never rely on a 380 ACP.
45 ACP is serious for personal defense. Out in the woods, where the dirt bag might be four-legged, 44 magnum.
I favor the 50. cal 350gr JHP. stop the dead in there tracks and might kick em back a few feet. But one thing is for sure. one shot is all it takes.
You must have some serious meat hooks on ya' Honda!
Use the 45 acp thats perfect
You guys with the 45s! You have to move to Florida! Today it hit 96 degrees and I'm riding a bike with my wife. We frequently go down a road where a truck or car has been known to park and who knows what they're doing?
I got rid of my 1911 because I couldn't carry it while wearing cargo shorts and a T shirt. I'm not really 100% pleased with the compact Glock as a summer carry because it's not the most comfortable either.
I've looked at the Kel Tec because of lower weight and less bulk. Other than that, I'm not sure what else can go biking in this heat. In the winter anything will work under a jacket. There's a lot of truth in the old saying that "anything you carry is better than what you left at home".
I carry a .25 everyday unless I can get away with more depending on clothes. I am getting a Kel tec .32 at some point. Its lighter than the .25 I have with more punch.
I wouldn't consider either one the "best dirtbag stopper" but they're better than nothing.
My Ultra Carry 1911 is becoming a favorite of mine, light, powerful, proven reliable so far, and Powerball ammo to ensure feeding all the time, and my best concealment gun yet.
I tell 'em about Jesus, they look at me like I'm nuts,and it's arguable, then run away. History tells us of an Old West U.S. Marshal. A man of colour,Baptist Minister,having an arrest record of somewhere around 175 men.He Preached to 'em,if they fought,he shot.47, I believe, went on to meet the Lord, the rest, jail. Nice, I carry my Bible(pocket version), and my .380(pocket version too)Plus a Smith-Wesson,'First Production Run',"Homeland Security" folding Tanto knife(waistband version).Those Sunday School Teachers-sure taught me right.
My Florida shorts and T shirt weapon of choice is my Seecamp 32 auto in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster. The whole rig weighs in at 13.5 ounces. Plenty of firepower for me.
Thanks guys! Good advice and good humor too. I like the Seecamp, but thought it was kinda pricey. I would consider the .25, but I think I would have to keep it secret from some of the hard-core guys. Moose- what kind of 380?
What is your price range? You'll be surprised at how reasonably priced many of the quality firearms actually are. My most important piece of advice is to not place a dollar value on something you may have to use to protect yourself or someone that may rely on you for protection. If you're planning on carrying or simply owning a firearm for self defense, you owe it to yourself and to those around you to purchase the best, most reliable firearm possible. Then you're responsible to practice as often as is possible to hone your skills to perfection!!
My problem is the number that I already own. I'm at the point where I need to swap out something to get something else. I'm thinking my Glock 26 would be expendable. I have other items to protect the house with, including a 12 gauge.
The Glock is 20 oz unloaded, so that is the top end for weight. I find that eliminates the 1911s, and a lot of otherwise perfectly good handguns. Otherwise the Glock is just perfect. If I could carry it concealed in a Fobus holster I would never let it go.
Tig- you mentioned what I considered the most important piece over brand, caliber and ammo choice. Training. We currently spend each Sunday (after church!) at the range as a family. My wife is considering a permit herself, but she hates the Glock. (As do other people) At least she can carry in a purse. My boys are great shooters but aren't old enough yet. They have helped several adults learn gun safety and how to get started in shooting.
I'm leaning toward the Kel Tec unless something else jumps out at me. Meanwhile, I'll be leaning towards my right as I pedal. I have three different holsters and have pretty much decided that it's the weight and the thiness of the frame that are prime factors.
I've heard alot of good feedback about the Bersa Thunder .380. It's pretty light, fairly compact, inexpensive, and still has reasonable punch. Pretty nice looking too. Its a PPK style pistol.
desert eagle .50 HAHAHAHHA
I'm sure his wife will love it!
Also, the Desert Eagle will be very handy if any bears cross the bike path!
I checked out the Bersa- my Glock is only 2 oz more and it's a 9mm.
Maybe I need a gun rack for the bike. Hmmm.
HAHAHA That would be awsome!!!!
The Bersa has a lot of catching up to do to even get close to the Glock quality and reliability. There are a large number of people that like their Bersa but it has a ways to go achieve what Glock has already met.
I'm in full agreement but I thought his wife might like the style better and it costs a third of the Glock.
If weight is the major factor go with the Kel tec .32, don't bother with the .25, the weight and size difference is negligible. If you are staying in 9mm and just want to change style, look at the M&P compact, the XD compact and the P99/SW99, Any 9mm lighter than your Glock will probably dissapoint you. The Kel tec 9mm has gotten some marginal reveiws.