Bersa Thunder Reviews

Discussion in 'Pistols' started by ActiveFan, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    Should I call you "Buzz"? LoL!! You made two good choices, no question about that. But what to choose? If you break it down, my vote goes toward the Bersa. Let me explain what I mean, if I can!



    The CZ 75B is an all steel gun, and heavy at 35 oz. Also comes with a 4.7 (5) inch barrel which makes for a large concealed carry option that many people would rather avoid. Because of it's weight the recoil should be very manageable. I didn't like the trigger reach on this either, too long for my medium size paw. It comes with a 15 round mag or less. I got a price of $455.00 on it which is highest of the group here.



    Another pistol in the CZ family you should look at is the CZ 75D PCR Compact. It has an aluminum frame and steel slide which will increase felt recoil but it's very manageable IMO. It weighs 27 oz and has a 3.9 inch barrel. That will make it better for carry. It also comes with a decocker which is a great feature, I really like it. The last price I saw on one of these was $525.00. Truth is CZ has quite a few variants and you really have to do your homework before buying one.



    Now the Bersa Thunder Pro HC9 comes along and confuses everyone!! I'm amazed that Bersa isn't flying off the shelves and tables at gun shows! They're an excellent deal for the money. I have a Thunder 9 UC and love it, but I'll try to keep my remarks neutral, lol! It comes with an aluminum alloy frame, steel slide and you can get it duo tone if you want. It's fully ambidextrous which is a major plus. It's a little heavier than the CZ 75D but much lighter than the 75B. This also comes with a 17 round capacity. At 30.7 oz and a 4.25 inch barrel this should be a good CCW gun. Bersa's all come with a lifetime warranty too. I just got a price NIB for $388.00, so it's definitely affordable.



    I'm sure I bounced around with those descriptions, so I hope you let me know if you have any questions about my commentary! I have a habit of doing that, ha!! Good luck with your decision Buzz and let us know what you decide. By the way, Welcome to the Forum!
     
  2. hyperme

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    many thanks sir tig. i am very pleased to have found this forum. i just want to own a decent but reasonably priced 9mm. there will be a gun show here in manila next month, that's why i am asking for opinion on my two choices and you gave me a very good info. i guess i will go for bersa hc9 since i am very pleased with my bersa hc40. thank you sir.
     

  3. roncodrummer

    roncodrummer Well-Known Member

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    hyperme- I agree with tig, I thoroughly enjoy my Bersa Thender Pro Ultra Compact .40 and my Thunder .22LR Can't help but feel you won't go wrong with the Bersa 9mm. Keep us posted on your findings!
     
  4. roncodrummer

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    Just returned from another incredible day at the range! Funny how something that can be so loud and deadly can be so relaxing and peace promoting. I find it very soothing to focus on a point and fire at it. It's a very relaxing, peaceful time spent in the solitude of my own head silenced with ear plugs. And to think my own government is trying to take this away from me. Never mind the fact that I can't protect myself or what is mine. I live in Illinois. I realize the hypocritical bastards that run my state. Tell me I can't while all of THEM do. But to take away the simple pleasure of a peaceful day putting holes in paper targets. This poor country has lost it's identity in an attempt to be politically correct for all the wrong people.
     
  5. rgillgil

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    roncodrummer, I couldn't but savor each letter of your last comment. I have never heard such a poetic and at the same time realistic way of describing what I believe, is our pasion about shooting a firearm for all the right reasons. I enjoy them the same way. Bersa firearms, specially the Thunder is such a pleasure to fire and enjoy that you only forgot to mention that it parallels the brush of a painter inmortalizing his ideas on a canvas. Hey, ronco, if things get too restrictive for you in Illinois, come to Alabama you will enjoy "weapons heaven", where the only similarity to Illinois is its four last letters without the "O". I live in the county where I'm a Deputy for. I get up in the morning and look at my wife and ask her "Honey, what you want to fire today for breakfast?, the AR,AK,Remington Bersa, Glock, Makarov, Keltec, Ruger, SigSauer, ISSC and what caliber? Just to mention a few...

    She kind of prefers to fire her baby, her SigSauer. The only question is what caliber 9mm or 40s&w? I like the buffet, were I fire some each, although I can't sometimes decide between my Glock and my Bersa.
     
  6. roncodrummer

    roncodrummer Well-Known Member

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    Spent another day at the range with mixed results. I had at least a half-dozen FTE from my Bersa Ultra Compact .40. I used the same ammo as usual. The only differing factor was the cleaning solvent used after my previous trip. I tried a can of Hornady One Shot Dry Solvent Cleaner. The stuff seemed to work well and the label said it leaves a dry lubricant on the gun, but when I sent some rounds through my Bersa, I had the FTE's. Have any of you guys had any experience with this stuff? I am going back to G96 CLP and will see if any problems arise. Please let me know if you have tried this stuff.
     
  7. hyperme

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    i was at the range yesterday with my .40pro, i got a lot of FTF after the 1st or 2nd bang. my ammo was always stuck up nosediving inside both my mags. i don't know if it is the teflon coated ammo or loose spring. i usually keep both my 1911 hc and my bersa mags loaded about 10-12 rounds, but this type of jamming on the mag never even once happened on my 1911.
     
  8. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    I've got the Bersa Thunder UC 9mm and haven't had a failure to do anything ever. I encourage you to try a product that I absolutely swear by, "Eezox" http://Eezox.com/gun-care.html I might also add that I use this for every firearm I own, from this to my Glock, Ruger and my Bushmaster AR. None of them have ever failed in any form. I attribute it to good care and Eezox!
     
  9. roncodrummer

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    TIG - Just did a little research on the Eezox and it sounds like just what I've been looking for. I don't like the oily residue left behind with the G96 CLP and I end up breaking my weapons down the next day and wiping them dry and repeating it again a few days later. The oil just never seems to dry up. I like the sound of the Eezox and the dry-to-the-touch property. I am going to pick some up this weekend. I'll post my thoughts afterwards. Thanks again, my friend!
     
  10. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    I've converted many, many shooters, here especially to this stuff. It truly does what it says. We've held some corrosion resistance tests with it, and several other products with fabulous results. Eezox routinely performed better than everything else. Be sure you get the needle oiler, it works great!
     
  11. rgillgil

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    Ronco and Hiper, as I have posted in the past I own several Bersas including the UC40. I haven't had ANY problems with my UC40 or by the same token in my other 15 handguns and 8 rifles/shotguns. As Tig was advising, sometimes we use a specific lubricant that really works for any kind of firearm lubrication needed. I have discovered that lubrication of the mecanism is better achieved with a lubricant that will repel dirt as much as posible but at the same time provide needed lubrication of those parts that have metal to metal contact. In my line of work I can't afford to have my service pistol or my back up fail on me. With that said, I use Sentry Solutions "Tuf-glide". It is oil free and it works!! You can clean, lubricate and protect with it. It is being used widely in the armed forces and is combat proven. After I disasemble my firearm, I use my degreaser to clean thouroughly any residue. I then use a small brush with a couple of that tuf-glide and brush all the parts before putting them together and just in case wipe all of them with a clean rag. This product comes with a siringe type of aplicator so one drop on each side rail for metal to metal contact then assembly of the firearm. For aestetics I wipe my firearm with a silicone cloth from Hoppes and that does the trick. NO PROBLEMS WITH MECANISM AND THE FIREARMS LOOKS GREAT. Hope this helps. I've been using this system for quite a few years. My life depends on it!!
     
  12. roncodrummer

    roncodrummer Well-Known Member

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    rgillgil- Thanks for the tip. I just ordered a can of Eezox this afternoon and I'm going to try it as soon as it comes in. I will order the Tuf-glide as well. I have had good results from the G96 CLP but I'm not real fond of the oil it leaves behind. I just clean it, then tear it down the next day and wipe it down, then repeat again a day or two later. The Hornady One Shot was a waste of money in my opinion. I liked the way it ate through the dirt, but it did not lubricate well at all. It boasts a "dry lubricant" but doesn't seem to work. I plan on taking the Bersa UC .40 and my Ruger P95 out over this weekend and see how it does.(I had no issues with the Ruger). AS the Eezox won't be here until mid next week, I will clean them with the G96 again. I will let you guys know. Again, thanks for the tip Bud!
     
  13. roncodrummer

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    rgillgil- Thanks for the tip. I just ordered a can of Eezox this afternoon and I'm going to try it as soon as it comes in. I will order the Tuf-glide as well. I have had good results from the G96 CLP but I'm not real fond of the oil it leaves behind. I just clean it, then tear it down the next day and wipe it down, then repeat again a day or two later. The Hornady One Shot was a waste of money in my opinion. I liked the way it ate through the dirt, but it did not lubricate well at all. It boasts a "dry lubricant" but doesn't seem to work. I plan on taking the Bersa UC .40 and my Ruger P95 out over this weekend and see how it does.(I had no issues with the Ruger). AS the Eezox won't be here until mid next week, I will clean them with the G96 again. I will let you guys know. Again, thanks for the tip Bud!
     
  14. hyperme

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    rgil- thanks, i just don't know if tuf-glide is available here in manila. i would like to ask, do i have to lube my mag to prevent nosediving or do i have to send them to a gunsmith? i've tried stretching and lifting the top front part of the spring where the feeder sits but still no progress. do you think i have to buy new magazines?
     
  15. 277Volt

    277Volt New Member

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    Eezox is simply outstanding. I use it not only on my Thunder 45 but all my other handguns and long guns.
     
  16. rgillgil

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    Hype, when I start getting problems with my mags I take them all apart, clean them and inspect them for any dents or deviations on the inside spacing, that is usual the problem with the guide. Sometimes we bang our mags and don't realize it until you start getting problems with the guide that cannot be fixed either by cleaning/lubrication or by changing the guide to a teflon type. Try one option or the other if that doesn't do it, I will just use a new one or take it to someone to repair it. I will not mess with the spring that way, maybe that is your problem, an out of angle spring. I have seen people even streching the spring because they have problems with FTF. There is a way to check it. If you have a second mag, take it apart and compare the spring length and angle with the one not giving you any problems, maybe your adjustments have messed the spring.
     
  17. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    A couple of things have come to mind that I want to mention. First to Hype, by chance did you disassemble the mag and put the spring in wrong? It's an easy mistake. Like rgillgil said, take it apart and compare it with a good mag. The second thing I want to suggest since rgillgil mentioned Tuf Glide, take a look at this product from Brian Enos, it's called Slide Glide. Good stuff! http://brianenos.com/pages/slide-glide.html
     
  18. roncodrummer

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    @tigwelder56- Thanks so much for the EEzox tip! That is the best my firearms have looked since I bought them. The cleaning ability of that stuff is nothing less than spectacular. I got a small 7 oz can and it didn't take much to clean the 4 weapons I took to the range. I am going to take them back on Friday and see how they do. I think the problem I had with the Bersa UC .40 stems from the magazine. I had some problems with one of the magazines I have. I used the other over and over and no a problem arose. I put the "bad" magazine in and had repeated FTE's. Even so, the EEzox was a great purchase and I'm sold on it. Thanks for the tip, my friend!
     
  19. eddbrowne

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    I only have a few hundred rounds through the Pro 9, but it's

    been flawless. We chose it for reliability with my wife's weak hold.

    We can't get it to jam with the weakest possible hold.

    It fires subsonic for lower noise with no issues.

    I saw they had a group of bad extractors in 2010, but what

    I read and what I experience makes it the only great gun

    buy that I've had.
     
  20. hyperme

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    another great day for my bersa 40pro, just got 1st place on a club shoot today over glocks and 1911s. just a 300+ round fun shoot anyway, but still a great accomplishment for an underrated pistol. i am finally convinced that i bought a very good low priced piece.