Beretta Px4 Storm Reviews

Discussion in 'Pistols' started by pogieeh, Apr 1, 2006.

  1. Rerun201

    Rerun201 Well-Known Member

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    @epwrangler



    Have you mentally rehearsed what you would do if those circumstances ever occurred again?
     
  2. epwrangler

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    A million times. It is really pretty simple if it comes downto me or mine and you, you have a real problem and I hope you survive it but there are no guarantees. After years of practice I am pretty good and yes, mentally prepared to fight if necessary. What about you, you ever ducked lead mosquitos?
     

  3. Rerun201

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    @epwrangler



    So through this experience and your later training you are better prepared than most to handle that situation. Through mentally replaying the scenario in your head, visualizing sound tactical moves and responses, you're even bettered prepared than through just the training alone. Certainly better prepared for that situation than me.



    And in response to your question: yes. I have. Always line of duty stuff. I've been very fortunate in that my family has not had to. My hat's off to you and yours.
     
  4. epwrangler

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    I was talking to a Game Warden I met in a LGS today. I have known severalover the years. It is surprising how much these guys have to put up with, usually alone and isolated. I do worry about my son in Houston who carries a badge and a gun these days as a detective. I have a great deal of respect for all who do. A few times I have been right beside one as we cleared my building after the alarm went off. Glad I don't do it every day.
     
  5. woofwoof

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    Greetings,

    Can I ask a favor of you all? Can we PLEASE talk about the GUN? I do appreciate all the other comments, just not in the review section for a gun. Specifically the Storm in .45 vs. the XDM .45. I would really like your INFORMED thoughts and comments! I know that the storm is a few hundred dollars cheaper than the XDM.

    You see, I live in the People's Republic of Wisconsin. Our dear leaders finally trust us to protect ourselves...well at least the republican do.

    Anyhow, those are the two guns I have come down to. I am a large man, 6'5" and about 280 pounds. I also want to know if they are too big for CC.



    Thanks!
     
  6. DrBob

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    Woof, FWIW if i were going to get a PX4 .45 i'd look at the PX4 SD (Special Duty). I've not shot the .45 versions but considered them closely and thought the SD model was the cream of the crop.
     
  7. Rerun201

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    I'm 5-10, 235 and find that the PX4 full size 9mm is not hard to conceal at all in an IWB holster daily, year round. The .45 version would not have dimensions that much greater than the 9mm. I would think that someone your size would have no trouble concealing just about any sidearm you wanted to.



    I can't speak to the .45 models, nor can I speak to the XDs. What I can speak to is the full size 9mm. It is a great piece. I went out with my son and 14 yr old grandson over Father's Day and everyone got a chance to shoot it. Everyone liked it over the Glocks that were present (Glock 36 in .45 cal. and another Glock .40). The rotating barrel reduces recoil noticeably; my grandson said it felt more like shooting a .22. Several hundred round of hardball and hardball flatnosed ammo has gone through this PX4 with no malfunctions of any kind.



    One thing you might want to consider is the model of PX4 you're looking to purchase. The Model F that I own has the safety/decocker. I had an adjustment to make in my technique to accommodate the placement of the safety/decocker and the slide release. I was trying to disengage the safety by moving my extended thumb upward. That would often result in my pushing up on the slide release, not the safety lever, slowing the presentation and firing. My remedy for this was to adjust my technique to one where, when I draw, I have my thumb pulled back. Once I clear the holster, I thrust my thumb forward and this positively engages the the safety and no other lever.



    I'm assuming your hands are larger than mine (large glove size) so you might also face the issue with the F Model. The PX4 comes in models that have no safety/decocker so that is probably the best way to make sure you don't have that issue.



    My opinion as to the cost difference: when there is hundreds of dollars in the difference of the price of two presumably stock firearms of the same caliber, mag capacity, etc., and the primary purpose of the firearm is going to be self-defense, I'm inclined to go with the less expensive of the two, provided it comes from a reputable manufacturer and that model has a good reputation. The gun is going to get used and it's going to suffer wear and tear. It's not going to be a collector's piece. The additional hundreds can go to other equipment (belt, holster, mag carrier) and ammo.
     
  8. zerwas.pat

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    i got to shoot my friends .45 xdm a 5 days ago. im not going to ever buy a xdm one it failed to eject 2 times and it was just sucked to shoot alot of kick, but i got a storm .40 cal and i havnt shoot the .45 yet but i carry my .40 cal almost everyday and its not that big. i liked my storm better then matts .45 xdm but different cal. so i cant say much.
     
  9. MightyFoFaad

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    @ woofwoof ... if you like the Beretta, & you want something for everyday wear ... why not go with the PX4 Sub Compact? Worn with a belt slide holster, it offers a minimal silhouette & is easily concealed by shirt or jacket. The .40 S&W has the same punch as a .45 but with less recoil & more rounds in the clip.
     
  10. snakedog

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    woofwoof, I've had a Beretta PX4 .45 full-size for a couple of years. It's a great gun, about the size of a 1911, maybe a little thicker. Much lighter than a 1911 though. I can't compare it to an XDM as I've never handled one of those. It's very ergonomic as are the 92's (owned one of those in the 80's) and points well.



    The fit and finish of a Beretta is as good as it comes. The gun always fires, always ejects and is accurate. So far, it takes anything I feed it. The recoil is less than a 1911 but still substantial. There's no comparison with the recoil from a .22 handgun. I've got a couple of "dog guns" (22's) and the Beretta .45 is a different animal.



    The compact versions of the PX4 sometimes suffer feeding problems, particularly 9mm, I've seen that with my own two eyes at the range. The full-size version, again, no problem. I don't carry a weapon typically, I feel safer without one except in the woods. Animals are the only thing I've ever had to defend myself against.



    Maybe the most common gripe is the safety/decocker levers that protrude from the slide. $70 at the Beretta store online and you can get ones that are flush to the slide. It's a DA/SA auto so I never use the levers except to decock the gun, and for me they are not a problem. No need for a safety in DA mode, in my book.



    Again, the .45 PX4 is comparable to a 1911 in size, but significantly lighter. It's a shade lighter than an XDM. It is by no means a compact pistol. As a carry gun where you live, it would probably be concealable except on the hottest days. I really like the gun, for form and function it doesn't get any better than this, only more expensive. HTH.
     
  11. Gloc9mm

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    As I mentioned elsewhere, I just purchased a PX4 sub compact 9mm, and I could not stop it from jamming. The Range Instructor came in and tried it and it worked fine, but he was 300 lbs of muscle, and I'm 130 with a bad Back. But he could hold it steady enough not to have any recoil when firing, which he said was essential with that Weapon. I have Carried for 30 Yrs, and never had a problem with a full size handle, (G-19 and 1911) so I decided to forget it and go with a compact 357 Revolver. If I'm gonna Carry it, I want to be sure it shoots Every time, just like my other 2. Otherwise I don't want it, my fault or not.
     
  12. Mik3e

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    gloc9mm: at the risk of sounding preachy I'll offer a few observations and suggestions. 1) Cheap 'plinking' ammo often doesn't generate the energy to reliably cycle the slide. Base your decision on the good stuff. 2) I use the small back-strap to get the heel of my hand behind the grip for better control. 3) Grease the slide and the hammer-release cam on the safety lever. 4) Store the gun with the slide open for a few months. This will take the edge off a new spring. If you have done the above and still don't trust the gun then toss it.

    I'm also a lightweight with a bad back and I've not had a problem with the SC.
     
  13. Gloc9mm

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    Thank's for the help, but I got rid of it that same day. They took it back and I bought a Ruger 357 Revolver for the times I need a small Carry Pistol. Every other shot was an FTE/FTL, and as I said I don't really know if I can blame the Gun. When the Instructor held it like it was in a Vise, it worked fine but I just couldn't get it down, and when Carrying I want to be able to just pull and shoot if God forbid it ever comes to that. Besides all the Legal ramifications I don't want to also need to remember to hold it differently than any other Weapon I own. Plus even when doing that it jammed like every 3rd or 4th shot. I just didn't want to take the chance of never being able to handle it correctly. Otherwise I thought it was a very nice Gun and made well.
     
  14. Stebai

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    Anyone purchasing a new pistol might run into jams at the start, from any manufacturer's product. The problem is not usually the pistol itself. It's the magazine. Many magazines come with gunk in the mechanism. Clean it out and you should be fine. My girlfriend had this same problem after purchasing the Storm subcompact. I cleaned the magazine and flexed it a few times and she hasn't had a misfeed or failure to extract these past six months.
     
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  19. Rerun201

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  20. tjseveryday

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    Have this in .40 cal. Very comfortable and great looking. Very easy to strip and clean. Holds a lot of rounds for a .40. It took a bit to get used too for me. I think the gun is a bit too light for the caliber. It's too big to carry. Plus the DA/SA Thumb Safety/Decocker is confounfding at times. Give me a DA only for self defense any day of the week. I use it for range time only.