Beretta 21 Bobcat Reviews

Discussion in 'Pistols' started by dood, Jul 30, 2006.

  1. dood

    dood Member

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    I dont recommend this pistol in .22LR. It doesnt have an extractor. An ejector, but no extractor.



    Ive had mine for over a decade. Its built to jam. Firing CCI Stingers help somewhat if you really stiffarm your hold so the pistol gets maximum recoil.



    Typically the jams are due to a fired roud not extracting. Sometimes (after a successful extraction and ejection) the following round jams on the loading ramp and leave dents that have to be polished out. One time at the range the front edge of both grips popped out of the frame while firing. (Look at the above picture to see that the grip screws are at the rear of the grips.) Im not exactly sure why it did that, but the slide recoil levers and recoil springs ride against the inside of the grips and that may have something to do with it.



    Do not bet your life on the .22LR version. Maybe the .25 is better. I do not know, though.
     
  2. 1945

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    Just returned from range today and after putting approx. 300 rounds of various qualities through this little gem I consider it the best pocket pistol in this caliber available.

    It did not jam once. There was one misfire that was do to the bullet itself (a Remington bulk) but it shot that cheap stuff just fine.

    CCI Stingers were right on, elevation wise at 25 yards the Remington Thunderbolts and CCI standard velocity were about 4 inches low at that distance and the pistol consistently shoots approx. 6 inches to the left at that distance.

    But given my experience with jamming and misfire problems with other pieces in this category (Taurus comes to mind) Im totally pleased with this pistol.
     

  3. JJHamilton

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    I got one in .25acp, operation is good, accuracy very poor, its a last resort pistol, better than throwing rocks
     
  4. RAFA45

    RAFA45 New Member

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    pURCHASED A 21a BOBCAT AND WAS DISSAPOINTED AT FIRST, NOT SO GOOD DA/SA TRIGGER PULL AND PLENTY OF FTEs. DRY FIRED IT WITH EMPTY BRASS CASES AND NOW THE TRIGGER IS VERY SMOOTH. BUFFING THE BURRS I FOUND ON THE RECIEVER SILDE RAILS AND NOW THIS BABY SUCS UP AND SPITS OUT EVERYTHING FROM YELLOW JACKETS TO STINGERS AND ALSO THAT 525/ BOX JUNK WITHOUT A HICCUP. ITS ONLY A 22LR BUT I CAN DUMP A MAG INTO 3INCHES AT 7YARDS IN ABOUT 2.5 SECONDS CONSISTENTLY. WHILE I USUALLY CARRY A 340SC LOADED WITH CORBON 357, I DONT FEEL POORLY ARMED WITH MY LIL BOBCAT. IF YOU WANT A SLICK DEEP COVER BUG YOU COULD DO MUCH WORSE, THIS GUN IS ALSO A GOOD COMBINATION GUN WITH THE TOMCAT, I PICKED UP AN INOX MODEL AND THE BOBCAT IS A GOOD CHEAP PRACTICE GUN FOR SOMEONE WHO CARRIES A TOMCAT.
     
  5. rodeorider

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    For the price, this is a fair gun. Not that I would stake my life on it - but I have never experienced a jam in the 10 years Ive owned the 21A. I would recommend applying a fair amount of (synthetic) lubricant/grease to the slide. Also, I polished the slide a couple of years back - thanks for pointing this out, RAFA45. Lubricant and polishing has greatly enhanced the operation of the 21A.
     
  6. EBG

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    Got one in 22. Pretty good and will fire and extract without a hitch as long as you clean and lubricate it after every use. Will misfire every now and then if you use cheap ammo though. Cant say much about the accuracy at a further distance than 10-15 yards but that is expected of a short barreled pistol.
     
  7. UFFU

    UFFU New Member

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    I purchased a used Bobcat .22 cal today and took it to the range. I was MORE THAN PLEASED with it. I fired 200 rounds through it without ANY jamming or misfires. I fired CCI Mini Mags .

    I purchased this firearm as a back-up gun, to carry concealed. I would recommend it to anyone.

    Accuracy was more than decent and really enjoyed it.
     
  8. jlowey1

    jlowey1 New Member

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    I just purchased a Bobcat. Do any of you Bobcat owners know where to buy grip extensions for it?
     
  9. Potvin24

    Potvin24 New Member

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    i am lookng fo a good gun for trapping is this a good gun

    it just needs to be good enough to pop a cyote in the head if its is not a good choice plzzzz tell me a good gun
     
  10. jlowey1

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    Potvin24,



    I just purchased a Bobcat and have found it to be very reliable. I've fired many types of .22LR ammo in it and it choked on only one. I recommend shooting the high powered ammo like Stingers or Yellowjacket. The pistol points very naturally and would sure 'do' a point blanck coyote! Easy to carry!
     
  11. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    I own both the single and double action 25acp models of this pistol. They're both reliable with more reliability going toward the Jetfire (sa). The double action is very sensitive to dirt and crud. I find that cleaning it is necessary with every box of ammo used. But the Jetfire (sa) isn't as picky. I find that neither one of them is reliable with hollowpoints. But a hollowpoint in a .25acp isn't the wisest thing to use in my opinion. They just don't have the energy to reliably expand so you have to go with the opposite train of thought, and that's penetration. The only way you'll get decent penetration is to be close and use FMJ ammo. It will hopefully be powerful enough to reach deep and find an organ or blood supply. Of course if you have a choice of shot placement you should always go for a head shot when using a .25. I would fire as many rounds as that little pistol will fire too! I found a set of rosewood grips for the Bobcat at a gunshow. They don't extend the grip but they really fatten it up which makes holding it much easier. They allow a very solid hold and are formed very ergonomically. I've never seen extensions or an extended magazine for this gun. Your pinky will most likely be hanging loose but the recoil from this is almost non existent so I wouldn't be too concerned about lack of control from the small grip style.
     
  12. AZCCW

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    This is the second Bobcat .25 ACP I have owned.

    I made the mistake of selling one I had had for years.

    I like the tip up barrel feature. This is a nice feature that makes it easy to carry chambered with the hammer down.

    Just pull back the hammer, and good to go.

    (Check photo number three)
     
  13. Patrol

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    The best little pocket gun money can buy. Nothing out there could be as reliable as the 21a and the flip top barrel is an excellant feature i wish they'd bring back for big calibrers too.
     
  14. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe they can put a flip up barrel on the larger calibers because it can only be applied to guns that use a blow black ejection system. As far as I know the largest caliber that utilizes a blow back ejection system is a .380. I'll do some more reading on this and post the info here. The flip up barrel is a nice feature, it certainly is easy to load/unload in a hurry. The added safety of it is well known throughout the industry. Beretta must have some kind of copy protection on that because you'd think that imitators would be all over a feature like that. I have never seen anything close in resemblance.
     
  15. AZCCW

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    Today I put on a Pearce Rubber Grip.

    It has a good feel to it, I'll update after I fire some rounds with this grip. (Check photo 4)
     
  16. tigwelder56

    tigwelder56 Well-Known Member

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    That's a nice looking grip. Does it include a laser sight? It almost looks like it does. If you have handled the Hogue grips, you know what I mean when I say they can be sticky at times, which provides most of the allure for the brand. Is the Pearce grip similar in feel to the Hogue? I've got the 21 and 950, both 25's. The 21 has a set of fat rosewood grips on it and it really makes for a nice hold, but it also reduces the concealability of it, not so much that it causes problems, but it is much bigger. Let us know what you think of the Pearce product when you get a chance to shoot. What was the asking price? Thanks for the information and picture!



    Tig
     
  17. AZCCW

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    I shot the .25 Bobcat with the Pearce rubber grips today.

    Very comfortable solid grip, I fired 150 rounds without a problem.

    It does feel similar to the Hogue, I have them on a Ruger P90.

    This grip does not have the laser, I wish it did.

    The asking price was $18.95, here's the link.

    http://www.gunaccessories.com/PierceRub ... /index.asp
     
  18. 18JMS

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    Overall I like the pistol but I have had problems with it.



    Its not very accurate at 25 yards i'm having trouble putting the bullet anywhere near where I'm aiming.



    Jams, empty casings getting caught inbetween the slide.



    I understand the gun has a flip up barrel and the slide isnt really meant to be racked. But the slide is VERY hard to rack I dont understand why its so hard to rack on such a small pistol.



    I bought this as a carry pistol and I would be worried about jams if I ever had to shoot more than 1 bullet.



    For accessories, I bought a stainless steel slide, nemesis pocket holster and a pearce rubber grip.
     
  19. EBG

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    Hey 18jms, I'm no expert but a short barelled pistol like this is only meant to be most accurate at 5 to 10 yrds (some say only 3 to 7 yrds). It was meant more as a back-up pistol or in the house for close range protection. Don't get me wrong though, even as a main pistol this can be effective depending on the placement of the shots. With regards to the jamming, mine used to jam because I keep forcing 7 rounds in the clip which messed up the spring. Try just 6 rounds. Is it a second hand? If it is then you might have to buy a new magazine and if not then you might have to break it in with about 100-200 rounds. This will also take care of the racking problem. Just make sure you clean it each time after use paying close attention to oiling the rails and the chamber.