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Discussion in 'Pistols' started by zaki1, Apr 24, 2006.
I am in need of a trigger and spring for a AMT Backup .380. Can some one help?
I have a newly purchased AMT .45 Back-up with a broken firing pin. Obviously I badly need one/ Apears to ne the only issue with the gun./ I have had many, but never had to replace ANY parts.
ANY info as to how to obtain parts (have tried all the usuals (Gun Parts.com, Numrick, etc...) PLEASE HELP, it or one of same has become my very most favorite carry gun.
Again, any info. PLEASE will be greatly appreciated and perhaps rewarded...or I am off to buy another. Thank God for Gun Shows...just NOT for parts.
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First post here. I see that others are looking for AMT parts. High Standard Manufacturing has the needed parts. 1-800-272-7816.They are located in Houston Tx. Hope this helps.
Took the AMT's to the range yesterday for the first time.The 9mm was a shooting machine. At 7 yards I had nothing but head shots for the 40 rounds I sent down range. The 45 with its Wolff extra power spring would not cycle the trigger bar after one shot. I left the stock recoil spring at home so I was not able to switch it back. I strongly feel that the stock spring will fix the problem. If not, I'll just swap the 45 slide and barrel to the 9mm frame and see what happens. Should be good to go. Any thoughts to that out there?
I am interested in hearing how your AMT .45 Backup does.
Would still like to own one of these when they can be deemed consistently reliable.
Finally made it to the range to test fire my AMT backup in 45acp. Well the 9mm ran like a champ,again. But the "firing pin lock" on the 45 slide would work fine for 3-4 rounds, then it would turn about 1/32" and the trigger would not reset. I called High Standard in houston but could not talk to the gunsmith. He refuses to take phone calls because of the "liability issues". I just wanted to know what causes the firing pin lock to move is all. Guess I'll have to send him the slide to get it fixed.
Recoil was not bad. For a 3inch barrel in a all stainless frame it was neither a lamb or a lion. I think my Glock 36 has more recoil than the 45acp Backup. Do not forget that these handguns were designed as BACK UP,your last chance to live a dangerous event. I believe that if ever one has to use a Backup in self defense the trigger would feel like a 2lb trigger and there would be little felt recoil. You most likely would not recall hearing the blast.These are not target range guns that one shoots for pleasure of scoring 10 X's on a bullseye target. They are for up close and personal. Sorry,hope that answers your question.
Just inherited a double action only backup 380 from my father and so far it has been just an ok gun I bought some sellier and bellot ammo and it seemed to jam one shot out of every five but the remington ammo cycles fine. It makes me wonder how it will perform when I need it most. For a conceled carry gun it is small but being made of stainless steel it is heavy. I also have a Smith and Wesson Sigma .40 and fully loaded it is only about 4 oz. heavier than the AMT.
I have a AMT .45 Backup and it constantly jammed UNTIL I performed a careful "fluff and buff". The darn thing has not jammed since then as long as I use FMJ. It still does not feed 100% reliably with JHP. But the action is silky smooth now. So, if you're having any troubles with your AMT, then do a "fluff and buff". You'll be happy you did......
Hi, I have a AMT 380 DAO Backup purchased new approximately 12 years ago. I loaded it with Winchester 85 grain silvertip hollow points and put it in the dash of my car. Never fired it until 3 weeks ago. My daughter is going on the County Sheriff's Office and wanted a subcompact auto pistol to carry off duty. I looked this gun up, and printed the Manual for it. Never got one when purchased. I read where it was designed for FMJ bullets and purchased 50 of them. Took her to the local firing range to test fire it to see if she wanted it. It performed very well with all 50 shots run through it. Then I loaded the origonal hollow points I had bought with the gun. The first one fired and the second jammed. I didn't shoot any more. I took the gun to a local gunsmith and had it polished throughout. Then I purchased 20 of MAGTECH GUARDIAN GOLD 380 AUTO+P JHP shells. Is the +P OK to shoot in this gun? Want to know the safety before I try them. Any help is appreciated.
I read with interest the reviews and comments of owners of AMT's in various calibers. Please remember that these were designed to work best with FMJ ammo. Anything else is a invitation for FTF and FTE. Yes fluff and buff works if done right as some have done or had done. Yes they are heavy and have a LONG trigger pulls. I have said before these are not target,range or hand guns that you shoot often. They can be hit and miss but when you find one that hits they can be great BACKUPS. Please if you have one sitting some where, make sure they work well before you bet your family's life or your own that they work well. Be safe.
Yes, I am trying it before I give it to her for protection. As stated, it works real well with FMJ, no jams, and at 10-15yds, pretty accurate. It is not a plunking gun, and pretty much a gut gun. But, are the 380+P jacketed hollow points safe to fire in this gun? I want to know that before I try them. I have always loved guns, and ws a very active shooter in my younger years. I've just gotten the interest baack with my daughter, and want to be sure that she has a good backup before giving it to her. I plan on buying her another 380 subcompact that is lighter and newer design. Maybe a LCP.
But, I know alot of you guys here are very well knowledged in these type guns. Thank s for your input. Does anyone know if the 380+P is like the 38+P which isn't safe for older guns?
I am curious what the owners booklet for the .380 says about the type of ammo is suggested for this handgun. All of my manuals have a warning in red ink that state to "never use ammunition where the pressure levels exceed indusry standards". In addition the manuals state that they were "designed to function with hardball ammo". Personally I would look at Hornady's Personal Defense ammo as it works most like hardball ammo but WILL expand always,even from a 3" barrel. Unlike +P ammo that works better from a longer barrel. If +P is your go to ammo,install a Wolff recoil spring as they are stiffer than the stock one. The Ruger LCP is a great little gun,light weight and very accurate for its size. Good luck Richard. My 2 cents.
This pistol is now back in production!! www.highstandard.com .
High standard of Houston, Texas is now producing the AMT Backup line of pistols again. .380, 9mm, .40 & .45 calibers. Not sure if it they are from new old production parts or of 100% new manufacture. Being all stainless steel they are all a bit heavy for their sizes but solid as a rock. Looking forward to a review on the reliability of the new ones, especially the .45 Backup.. You might contact them for info. http://www.highstandard.com/weapons-a-p ... s/107.html
Thanks for the info tdrago. Greatly appreciated!
mcacall869: Here is a website that "says" it is OK to fire +P in the AMT but only occasionally. Don't know if is correct.
I own an Ruger LCP and have fired the AMT .380 Backup and IMHO your daughter would be better served with the LCP. Lighter, smaller and VERY reliable. It's also OK for the infrequent use of +P rounds (like just for a little practice then only for defense..). In the end the "Best" concealed weapon to carry is the one you actually WILL carry! The LCP is so small I often forget I even have it on me. Just my .02 cents TD
Wow! That's amazing that the .45 Backup is available again. Thanks for posting.
Well, after 10 days of no response I wrote a note today asking (again) about reliability issues and where to see a NEW AMT-45 (as they call it) and all I got from High Standard was "Sorry for the delay in answering. We have been swamped with phone calls, and they come first, unfortunately.
Anyway, the back up 45 is very reliable. If you are interested in ordering one, please CALL us. 1-800-272-7816.
Thank you for your patience."
So, there you go. If HIGH STANDARD says it's reliable then it must be, right? Didn't AMT say the same thing about the original Backup 45??
So for ONLY $525 you can find out if the HIGH STANDARD version of the AMT Backup 45 is a better gun than the original seemed to be (Hit & Miss)..If so, it SHOULD be a WINNER and kick some serious butt in the world of "pocket pistols"!! Forget the .380 and the new rash of 9mm pocket guns..We're talking a .45 cal here, REAL knockdown power in a subcompact size! Anybody gets one PLEASE do a detailed review. TD
I've owned a Covina .380 for about 30 years and had few problems, all of which occurred a couple of years ago: misfires and feeding. I changed all springs, including the magazine and still had a feeding problem. I found that the crimp on the bottom of the mag loosened so the mag lock wasn't holding the mag and round high enough in the weapon. Re-crimping took care of this.
I'm looking to change the recoil spring to accommodate Buffalo Bore .380 +P ammo (1200fps, 288ft-lbs M.E. vs 1020fps and 202 M.E.). I haven't purchased the +P ammo and tried to fire any yet using the stock spring. I am concerned that the increased power might do some damage without a stiffer spring.
who is selling 1 i would like to buy but could they ship it to me in the uk ill pay extra