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Postby jdeangelis99 » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:56 am

sure will I can't stand people like this. Its like some people just want to give away all of our freedoms
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Postby radio_relay » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:29 pm

I appreciate all of you who are taking the time and effort to post a comment to that idiotic OSHA regulation. Also, be sure to send a short email to your Senators, and Representatives.



There is a conspiracy of the left to remove guns from the hands of citizens. I'm becoming more and more convinced that the intention is to remove our ability to combat a hostile leftwing/socialist takeover.



The bastards need to take our guns first. This movement to destroy the values of freedom, as defined in the Constitution, is well underway. Just watch the nightly indoctrination hour (some people call it the "nightly news"). It isn't "news" anymore. It's how wonderful all things from the left are, and how evil all things from the right are. With guns being the "most evil". The Christian, and Jewish religions, the Military, Police, and Patriots rank right up there as evil, too.



The left is patient, deliberate, and insidiously clever. When it comes to guns, they also have powerful allies on all sides. Corporations, big government, and the U.N. all have a vested interest in disarming the public. We, must remain vigilant, and support those organizations (like the NRA) that support our right to be armed, and to defend ourselves.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:06 pm

You stated it very accurately Radio. The Democrats and liberal left are out to ruin this country and are certainly doing a fine job of smearing the ink on the paper the US Constitution was written. Let them smear all they want, we know what it says and what it means. We have no choice but to fight them, clear into the sewers evidentially. I hope and plan at the end of the day to smear the ink on their gameplan. The absolute first thing that has to be accomplished is to get the word out. People aren't getting the information. The stinking liberal media has stuck a sock in the mouth of the conservative voice and now are trying to choke it to death. We've got to support not only the pro gun lobby but we've got to support conservative talk radio, print and TV. Can you imagine the furor that would occur if this issue was mentioned by Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity? That's the kind of press this issue needs. The moderate man or woman that enjoys bird hunting or a good deer hunt in the fall doesn't have a clue that shit like this is even occurring because they don't typically pay attention to things like we're seeing now. We've got to get everyone into the fold. It's what we'll need to repel the leftist/socialist attack that is underway from people within our own borders, the Clintons, the Brady's, Schumers, Feinstein, all of them. We've got to outnumber them in the ballot box, make it abundantly clear to our officials in government now that we won't take it laying down. The people shouldn't be afraid of it's government, the government should be afraid of it's people, they should respect the citizens rights. The Rights that they're afraid might get in their way as they attempt to rewrite the Constitution. That was one of the reasons for giving Americans the right to keep and bear arms, to repel any tyrannical attempts of government to overthrow the people and the status quo we have experienced since the original signing of the US Constituion and it's Bill of Rights.
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Postby radio_relay » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:50 pm

That's true, Tig. Conservative talk radio is about the only mass outlet left for conservative information.



BUT....



Ever notice they don't ever talk about gun control, either. They may give lip service in a positive way to gun ownership, and the second amendment, but never really "inform" the public concerning attacks on gun owners' rights.



If you want "real" support from conservative talk radio on gun rights issues, you need to get Sirius Satellite Radio. "Cam And Company" does the NRA-ILA show for about three hours every night. He talks nothing but guns, and gun issues on the national and local level. It's the very best show on talk radio for gun enthusiasts!!



It's Sirius Patriot Channel 144.



G. Gordon Liddy, and other great conservatives are on that channel, too.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:00 pm

I don't have satellite radio, I just don't listen to radio with exception of AM Conservative Talk Radio here. We don't have any FM talk radio and only one AM station that deals with conservative issues. I may have to get with the program and move that direction. I live on a real tight budget so luxuries aren't something I have a lot of extra money for. What extra funds I can generate for my gun hobby is spent on supplies and donations to the NRA. Besides this computer, my interest in firearms and the shooting sports is the only thing I do. I also spend time writing and calling our government officials to let my opinion be known. Everyone needs to know how important making contact with our elected officials is. If you don't let them know your position on these things and also let them know that you voted them in to office and you will also vote them out if they don't support your position. You most likely gave them your vote because they supported your views in the first place. If they turn and run on you once they're in office, it's important that you let them know you're keeping your eye on their performance and their willingness to keep the promises they made.
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Postby agonist » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:25 pm

You're absolutely right radio. "Conservative Radio" has simply become a biased, agenda driven polital outlet just the way your average newscast has, just for the other party. Most politicians who support 2nd amendment rights do so very quietly. They're afraid to comment and many are probably incapable of making a truly informed and insightful argument on any subject. Have you watched CSPAN? How do so many idiots manage to get elected? I can't remember the last time I saw a truly compelling speech made by a member of either party.
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Postby Blackrifle » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:35 pm

I don't believe he said that at all Agonist. Where does he say that Conservative Radio has simply become a biased, agenda driven politcal outlet just the way your average newscast has? I don't agree with that statement at all. If it wasn't for Conservative talk radio, the "Right" would have little access to the airwaves. Radio did mention that Sirius Satellite radio has a conservative pro gun commentator that speaks daily on the benefits of the Second Amendment. If we're going to accomplish anything positively we have to at least agree to agree and not change statements to agree with your own.
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Postby Dr.KM » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:57 pm

Yes this true and if u got connections threw out FL u know whats going down. After a few senators and congress people that live W.Palm beach and S.beach these are vacation homes.This was done because there were a few drive bys. After some punk ass boricas,cubans and white extremes. They decided to banned. Armored pearcing ammo. Just for Ice, Sherriffs and police only. That stupid Daddy Yankee started a mob war.It may not take effect until 2009.

Hey lets go to little Havana and get some cuban food.Like my favorite Ropa Vieja con un caffesito. You know main !!
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Postby agonist » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:06 pm

You're right Blackrifle, but he said in effect that they don't comment on a generally conservative issue, gun rights. The obvious assumption is that its too touchy and they are afraid to cover it, and if he's not saying it I will. Rush Limbaugh is just as much a schill for the right as Dan Rather is a bleeding heart. Both men will give you biased information and half truths to support their agendas, the truth is always somewhere in the middle. (Or maybe a bit right of middle)

And Bill O'Reilly is an absolute blowhard who I daresay wouldn't have the guts to truly stand up for any real issue he says he beleives in. He bulldozes any guest with an opposing viewpoint because he knows he can't make an intelligent argument. He makes a poor example for the truly conservative and constitutionalist viewpoint, and doesn't stand a chance of appealing to intelligent fence riders, swing voters middle Americans or whatever you want to call them.

When I make a decision on an issue I like to get all the info I can and neither the conservative broadcasters or the liberals are going to give it to you.
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Postby radio_relay » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:38 pm

Every information source will have it's bias and agenda. The biggest difference I see between the rightwingers and the leftwingers is that the rightwing people are up front about their slant and agenda. Whereas the leftwingers will never admit their politcal bias or that they are leftwing, and always say they are moderates, or "middle of the road". The lefties are liars right from the git-go.



However, no matter what side of the political spectrum the mainstream radio and tv programs come from, they *all* avoid being positive about gun rights. The lefties attack gun rights without shame. The righties don't attack gun rights, but never ever really defend them, either.



Only one obscure channel on Sirius satellite actually defends and supports gun owners and their rights.



As far as individual talk show hosts, or news talking heads. All of them have an agenda. Their agendas start with themselves and their careers, and they tout one issue or another depending on how it will further their careers.



The "Cam And Company" show on Sirius, is the only one I try to listen to regularly, because it keeps me up on gun issues. They are biased in favor of guns, and so am I... It's a good fit... :o)
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