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Postby tigwelder56 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:01 pm

Our rights shouldn't be taken away by our government. Unfortunately they believe that it is their right to change them and take them away if they see fit. The Castle Law is one example. As far as they're concerned you have no right to protect yourself, your home, your car or anything else as long as you're able to run away and hide from the criminal. What a pathetic group of cowards, and panty waisted losers. They have no clue what it takes to protect this country. God Bless America, we sure need someone with the balls to straighten things up!
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Postby who_dat » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:40 am

So, Tig...how do you really feel? LOL!



Seriously, you are right on the money, keep up the rant, don't let up for an instant.
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Postby beltbuckle » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:13 pm

VOTE FOR COLBERE or whatever his name is from the daily show! He'll make everything OK......



I love florida's stand you ground, finally somthing that makes sence.



Doesnt florida have some sort of printing law though???



In ohio we are supposed to run away. Unless we are in our home.
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Postby who_dat » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:17 am

Here's a reply to my original question of whether you lose your right to open carry if you acquire a CCW (CPL in Michigan):



Good afternoon,



Michigan Concealed Pistol Licenses grant the holder permission to carry a concealed pistol, but they do not require concealed carry. Therefore, a CPL holder may openly carry a pistol in places where it would be lawful to do so without a CPL.



Sincerely,



Sgt. Thomas Deasy

Michigan State Police



That clears up the question in Michigan for me.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:58 pm

Hi Belt,

I have sat here for the last 30 minutes going over Chapter 790 of the Florida Statutes (Firearms) and can't find any written statute that uses the word "Printing". The law does make it clear that if you're going to carry a concealed weapon, it better stay concealed at all times. There is no exception to that rule. So I think if someone were to see the outline of your firearm and called the police, you'd probably have some questions to answer and depending on who you're talking to will determine your penalty. A blatant violation will most likely carry significant penalties.
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Postby louismacote » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:42 am

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Postby louismacote » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:45 am

Every state has different laws. www.packing.org is a great place to start researching. It is important to understand the differences between printing, open carry, and brandishing firearms. Every state has different definitions and laws. Thanks to our excellent state troopers in MI, we can just call them up if you have a question. However; in MI brandishing is loosly defined in possesion of a firearm in a threatning manner. Neither printing, nor open carry are illegal in areas where carrying a handgun is legal in Michigan, but it certainly is very illegal in some states where cpls are issued. An interesting note: Alaskan state govt has ruled that requiring a ccw or cpl is unconstitutional, and is phasing them out. You can now carry concealed in a few states without a license as long as you can legally poseess a weapon.
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