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Postby tigwelder56 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:48 pm

Everything I wanted to know about Islam, I learned on Sept. 11, 2001.



You are what you believe in and each of us makes a choice to support what that is. If you're in favor of a bunch of Islamist whack jobs building a temple of victory, 600 feet from the WTC site, you've proven to us here what kind of person you are. Johnny, you're a Canuck, don't tell an American what is or isn't right about our Constitution. You have no right. My comment about Constitutional Crap was in no way meant as a slight. I'm sick of people using our Constitution in ways it wasn't intended. That's what I meant as "crap". Don't take things out of context. There are many amendments in our Constitution that are being abused by foreigners and zealots to pave their ways into our society. Our Constitution applies to Americans. I don't like seeing foreigners and those that are here illegally using our Constitution for their benefit. The 14th being used by illegals to have their children here so they obtain US citizenship shouldn't be tolerated. I firmly believe that the tricks people use to benefit themselves by the improper use of our most sacred document, is "crap". It should be illegal and not tied up in appeals courts for decades while some biased legislator decides what's best for him and his constituents. We need to fast track these decisions and return America to Americans. I firmly support an immigration freeze until we can get this figured out. If you continue to support this kind of nonsense, do it in your country. You need to worry about the problems in Canada and let us handle our own.



Foreigners in general have no right to tell us what they expect our country to provide them. They're here as an invited guest when they're here legally. I believe that foreigners, when here as a guest, can be shown to the door anytime it suits us. If you're here illegally, you're breaking our laws and should be dealt with quickly and aggressively. Take away the benefits they're getting by breaking our laws and they won't find it so appealing.
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Postby JustBen » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:01 pm

Heading to the Freedom concert in Cincinatti tomorrow. totally pumped up. Can't wait to leave the liberals and moderates behind and hang with some real American Patriots and support a good cause.

PS: Mayor Bloomberg you are a disgrace, and I hope that call to prayer every day from the mosque you want haunts you to the day you die.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:23 pm

Amen to that Ben, amen to that...



I'm heading to the Freedom Concert next weekend in Orlando. Like you I'm very ready to leave the complacent, all believing supporters of something so wrong behind. You're all free to believe whatever you like and if this is the kind of belief you have, as far as many of us are concerned, you are part of the undoing of America. You can believe that our Constitution gives you the right to assault it and the right to assault the intelligence and beliefs of your dissenters. But you should also get ready to fight to the death if you try to force your beliefs on me. That gentlemen is what our Constitution allows us to do, defend it and those enemies, foreign and domestic that try to trample it for their own benefit.



We're sick of people ruining our country and the way of life we have enjoyed for 200+ years. Don't expect us to send out an engraved invitation to those of you that somehow believe we should suddenly step aside and share our borders with a bunch of illegal and war mongering hateful people that want to change our country to something that suits them best. That's what has landed our country in the position it is. If you don't like what I have to say, well....tough shit. I'm not going to accept some mamby pamby "let's all get along" bullshit sway the way I think any longer and if you want to continue preaching that crap, well believe me, you're part of the problem here.



We're pissed and we're not going to take it anymore. You want to talk Constitutional rights? Well I just used some of mine. Don't tread on me without some expectation of something harmful coming to that foot. Enough is enough. If you want to keep debating, bring it on. I've got the rest of my life...
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Postby BrianB » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:05 am

Just so you guys know, I regard your opinions very highly on a personal level. At the same time though, and this is nothing personal against anyone nor general about everyone here, it is sometimes my fellow Americans than scare me most in the world.



There always seems to be reasons to hate and express extreme viewpoints. Which is fine, everyone has their right to express what they feel, but I am always just a little shocked, though I see it all the time and am somewhat used to it, that people can feel the way they do.
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Postby JustBen » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:32 am

The Jews were finally shocked after the holocost was over. Maybe they should have been shocked before that so they would not have had millions of their friends and families obediently exterminated by the Nazi socialist progressives. They projected their morals and values on the Nazi's, thinking "why would they hurt us". There is evil out there my friends, and it needs to be eliminated at the earliest possible chance.
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Postby BrianB » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:47 am

See, to me, that sounds just like the kind of reasoning the Nazi's would have used to hunt, torture and kill all Jewish people. Call them evil and a threat and kill them all before they get you. Hitler certainly was not up on his podium shouting about how nice Jewish people were but I am a raving lunatic bent upon genocide and I want my countrymen to do the same. Not every German swallowed his BS but some did and fought the wrong fight for the wrong reason. Germany and Germans still exist though and live normal lives without being a threat to the rest of the world.



Sounds the same to me concerning the whole of the Muslim world. Perhaps they do hate us all, maybe they don't, obviously some of them do, but I will not place myself at that level. As an American I feel that based upon the freedoms we have and the lessons we have learned, that kind of viewpoint stands directly apposed to the higher level and standard we live by. I will not lower my standards or morals to the level of the extremist whether that be Nazi, Muslim or American and that is what I feel being an American is and what all Humans should be.



Now if a direct threat truly presents itself concerning our country and constitution then yes, I will be in line to fight the battle. Till then, and even then, my opinion will not change that I will accept and be tolerant of everyone regardless of race, religion or even different viewpoints.
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Postby JustBen » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:15 am

Brian:

We are talking about preventing a mosque from being built and not allowing radical clerics that want to kill us to preach on ground zero. You have twisted my comments into some call for war or killing. That is what the other guys are doing. Being a Christian, I will refrain from the rest of the comments I want to make.

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Postby BrianB » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:35 am

It seemed to conversation went into more general terms than that of just the mosque. If I misinterpreted your comment then, hey, no problem. No reason to get upset though Ben, it is just a typical internet conversation. Have a good one, I am heading to the gun range and forgetting about this whole mess of stuff. See ya.
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Postby g4l » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:12 pm

Mike Bloomberg is all for this! When will He start raping His head with the bathroom hand-towel?
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Postby JohnnyA » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:10 pm

Wow Justben,

You're so right. Those silly Jews brought it on themselves. They practically forced the Nazis to round them up and murder them. I'm sure they now realize the error of there ways. BTW, when's that next Thank the Nazis Day parade? It's in Tel Aviv this year, right?
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