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Postby tigwelder56 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:07 pm

My daughter's boyfriend is is Army basic training right now. She spoke with him today and her conversation with him was very upsetting to her and not surprising to me. I'm curious what the rest of you think about this kind of BS. They were told that due to some additional Obama agreements there will be some further weapon reductions.Can you believe that? The reductions I speak of are as ridiculous as Obama's presidency. It seems as though Iraqi legislators are demanding that Coalition troops begin reducing the visible presence of firearms! LOL!! The first I've heard is that the Iraqi wimps are demanding that all turrent mounted weapons on the Humvee's and any other routinely used vehicles be removed. They also want no visible weapons on street patrols inside of city limits. Please tell me this is nothing more than some tactic to scare the crap out of new recruits! He seems very confident of his source and unfortunately after all of the bullshit coming out of the Obama Whitehouse, I tend to agree with him. I pray we're both wrong...
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Postby smith6906 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:04 am

thats absoluately insane!!!!!!!! it takes less than 2 seconds for things to go from fine to absolute hell over there. and you can only conceal pistols, i dont think the insurgents are going to "conceal" their AK's or RPGs although we know they conceal the IED's pretty well............i dont know what obama is thinking he keeps talking about lowering american deaths in the middle east, if he even cociders this armed forces deaths are going to be so high we wont even need to think about the war beacuse all our brothers sons and fathers will be dead!...........i call for an impeachment if this moron actualy does this!
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Postby smith6906 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:08 am

oh and G.W. Bush wasnt that good of a politcal speaker, and blaitenly sucked on the environment ..........BUT at least he was the best man to make the hard decisions to keep our country safe, Obama should learn from his war times resolve!
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Postby smith6906 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:17 pm

Tig,

Having gone through Basic Training, ( A "Couple" of Years ago) I sincerely doubt they would even discuss that type of an issue with new Recruits unless it was meant only to scare the S... out of them, just as they did with us with "The Square Needle" that they inject some Anti-Viral Agent into your Balls with! (Never happened!)

Even Fox News hasn't mentioned a Word about that, and if it were true I am sure they would have jumped all over it!

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Postby tigwelder56 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:59 pm

I hope you're right Bill. But my guy is a pretty level headed dude and has always been pretty sharp, as well as accurate. This administration is throwing around so much bullshit right now, nothing surprises me. Don't forget, this administration has already proven they're marxist, socialist and/or communist. Just depends on who's ass they're kissing and how much smoke they're able to blow up the skirt of Ms Liberty today.



PS: One more thing, ask a Vietnam Vet if the government provided them the tools and authority to end that war.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:33 pm

Hey Tig,

I can see Obo and Iraq wanting to scale down the Big visible items as we pull out, only so their people will feel that their own Gov't has their S--- together, but as I said I really doubt they would ever discuss it with new Recruits. If anything I would think if it were true they would keep it from the Sgts. no less the new Recruits, so nobody slated to go there goes either over or off the wall! LOL

But then again, it's been a long time since I have been there, and a different Era! Who knows what is going thru OBO's Brain? I bet he will end up credited with being either the worst or best President we ever had in the History Books anyway!

Good Luck to your Friend!

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Postby tigwelder56 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:53 pm

Here's one reference to the issue in question:



http://books.google.com/books?id=HxinLo ... q=&f=false
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Postby tigwelder56 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:48 pm

Hi Tig,

I never got to see much of that Book in question, as when I tried to turn the pages the Website or my Computer kept screwing up. But really, I would not worry about them taking away basic Military Hardware from our Soldiers. They will still have their Rifles and Pistols, but I feel if true they are mainly talking about reducing the visual presence of Tanks, Bazookas etc. in the Cities as we pull out, thus making the Iraqi's feel safer about the pullout.

When I was in Basic, it was almost like being in Prison, and that was only the AF! But you had no contact to outside materials nor even News stations. The World could have been Nuked, but if it didn't affect the Base they would keep you in the dark about it. They have always loved to use scare tactics to break you down, only so they can build you up later their way. I am not doubting he heard what he did, only it's validity. I feel it's just another "Square Needle" type of approach to Training! (I was scared to death about that Needle!!) LOL

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Postby tigwelder56 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:17 pm

I've got it from higher authority that it is indeed true. It's being presented by the Iraqi's as a condition rather than a boot camp square needle story. I'd just as soon tell the Iraqi's to pound sand and kiss our ass but the moron's in Washington DC seem to always be more interested in kissing ass instead. They'd rather risk the life of an American GI than piss off the Iraqi public. Which is exactly what will happen if they demand that Coalition forces reduce the visible weaponry. You have to admit that it does indeed sound quite plausible.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:09 pm

I don't think in History they have ever taken away an Infantrymans Rifle. That would be a first if I am not mistaken, as well as rediculous. You would never get me there W/O at least a Rifle and Pistol! I'd be making my own Grenades/Pipe Bombs if I ever had to be there!

I know! We threaten them with The Square Needles! LOL
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