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Web site used for check fraud

Postby cwodavis1 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:59 am

To whom it may concern,



The set up goes like this.



A seller has a firearm for sale and is contacted

by what seems to be a legitimate buyer. Then

the buyer obtains the address of the seller to

send a cashiers check for the cost of the item

in addition to any shipping or other charges,

which is (4) times the actual cost. The cashiers

check is bogus and the unsuspecting seller goes

to his bank and tenders the check. After which

he is instructed to wire the money minus the

actual cost of the gun via western union to a

location where the buyer takes the money.

The seller is now charged by his bank for the

entire amount as the check wont clear and

he is left holding the bag.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:22 pm

Your message is a bit confusing! I believe I know what you're trying to say but your explanation is hard to follow. Why would the actual seller receive a cashiers check including shipping which is 4X the normal amount (I'm assuming he must've set that price himself) and then be asked to wire transfer the money minus the cost of the gun back to the buyer? Why? Doesn't make sense! Where is the gun through all this? A bogus check following shipment of the weapon makes more sense. As long as you wait for the funding to clear the bank, or insist on Postal Money Orders only, you'll be safer, providing you use your head when dealing with people like this. Why in the world would the seller turn around and wire the money back to the buyer? Your entire story doesn't sound like anything someone actually selling something would do. Re read your post and tell me if that's what you meant to say. Thanks for helping me figure out the confusion...
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Postby g4l » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:43 am

Actually tig I heard a story a while ago just like that, not involving a gun sale, but the same scam. A 15 or 16 year old kid was selling something, so the person sent him a bogus check way over the amount instructing the kid to send back the difference. Well the kid did just that and found out later the guys check was a fraud. It seems to be getting more common.
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Postby tigwelder56 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:25 pm

Got your message and understand the scam a little better. I'm still curious why someone would fall for something so obviously strange! If I'm selling something and am contacted by someone willing to send me more than I'm asking, then requires me to cash his check and send the extra cash back to him, all the while waiting for someone to pick up the item I just sold, I'm going to be more than suspicious. Doesn't this entire story seem odd to everyone? I mean who in their right mind accepts a check for excessively more than they're asking and then turns around and mails the overage back to the buyer? That just doesn't make the first bit of sense to me. Any seller that is willing to do something so stupid shouldn't yell when they get smacked upside the head with a large kick of reality!
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Postby jdeangelis99 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:17 pm

Damn thats tricky.. I can see alot of people falling for this.. cwod do you still have the fire arm?
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Postby cwodavis1 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:16 am

YES I HAVE ALL ARMS THAT I ADVERTISE AND A LITTLE

ADVISE TO ANYONE SELLING ANYTHING ON ANY INTERNET

SITE: AT THE FIRST HINT OF DECEPTION OR FRAUD,

COLLECT AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE AND FORWARD

TO APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCY. THE PERPETRATORS

MAY ALSO BE READING THESE POSTS..........



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Postby tigwelder56 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:43 am

I received a private message from a new member today and he passed on information regarding the UK scam. I asked him to write the membership about the particulars of the crime so I'll allow him to make that decision himself. But suffice to say that he was a seller and someone from the UK did their best to rip him off. Be very careful out there people. These assholes don't care what sort of damage they cause you personally, professionally and most of all financially.
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